Quote (Stu @ Sep. 04 2010,20:17)Quote (t8 @ Sep. 04 2010,20:13)Quote (Stu @ Sep. 03 2010,19:47)What you can do is say that there is something now, and demonstrate that there is more than there used to be in an expanding universe, then extrapolate backwards to t=0, the Big Bang, at which point you can see the maths says there was nothing.OK, lets…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 04 2010,20:17)Quote (t8 @ Sep. 04 2010,20:13)Quote (Stu @ Sep. 03 2010,19:47)What you can do is say that there is something now, and demonstrate that there is more than there used to be in an expanding universe, then extrapolate backwards to t=0, the Big Bang, at which point you can see the maths says there was nothing.OK, lets…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 03 2010,19:47)Are you talking in absolute and final terms now, or will you wait the next installment of insights from the ever higher energy collisions being planned in Switzerland / France?What are you on about.I am just as interested in seeing what particles can be discovered as you. Whatever the outcome, it cannot disprove…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 03 2010,19:47)What you can do is say that there is something now, and demonstrate that there is more than there used to be in an expanding universe, then extrapolate backwards to t=0, the Big Bang, at which point you can see the maths says there was nothing.OK, lets go back to 0.So how do we progress to 1 from there?

http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news….o-haitiThere was a major earthquake in Christchurch, (the second biggest city in New Zealand) this morning. The magnitude is the same as the Haiti quake, but the epicentre was 40 km from the main populated area. New Zealand buildings have good construction codes to make sure buildings withstand strong…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 03 2010,15:58)As for t8's attack on Hawking's character, perhaps t8 will make an honest person of himself and put up the mathematics that shows Hawking doesn't know what he is talking about. Failing that, perhaps he could justify his use of religious metaphor in describing the nature of scientific understanding.Stu. It is not…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 03 2010,15:58)Looks like some journalists have taken some words out of Hawking's book and rearranged them to make their own sentences.Um, did he say there was no God or not? If he said it, then he is saying that something came from nothing. Unless he has a theory or belief in an eternal thing, but then that thing is God to him,…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 03 2010,16:10)The christian world is full of invisible intent, conspiracy, grudge, retribution, threat of punishment, salvation by snake oil and self-flagellation.I have to agree that the Christian religion does have such things as does other parts of society.But this website is not promoting the Christian religion or any other…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 03 2010,15:58)In case anyone considers that matter just appearing is an unacceptable concept, firstly it is happening right now inside your own body: quantum particles disappear and reappear all the time. Secondly, if you are religious, would it not be hypocritical to attack an idea you find difficult to comprehend if you…[Read more]

All unbelief in God starts somewhere and in his case it could have been fuelled by a possible grudge against an all powerful God who left him unchanged in a wheel chair. Years later, the seed grows and solidifies his now well developed atheism and then he uses his influence to turn people away from believing in him.In any case, when he dies, he…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 28 2010,18:30)To All …………..All this yakking and no one addressing the subject of this thread. Why must Christ pre-exist? Let here son (GOOD REASONS) WHY JESUS HAD TO PREEXIST. Surely all you who believe he did preexist can come up with something. Put your heads together and come up with some reason he (MUST)…[Read more]

You know Edj sometimes I attempt to read your posts, but the n umbers distract you from the words and I always give up. Consequently, I have never read a post of yours to completion that i can remember.

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 31 2010,15:19)Quote (t8 @ Aug. 31 2010,19:56)Q: Is there today a true churche to go to ?A: All believers are the Church. You don't go to Church you are the Church. When 2 or 3 are gathered, then you have a congregation and fellowship.hi T8i have to disagree with you in part only;;,Jesus says that it is not all the ones who…[Read more]

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Q: Is there today a true churche to go to ?A: All believers are the Church. You don't go to Church you are the Church. When 2 or 3 are gathered, then you have a congregation and fellowship.

Quote (david @ Aug. 22 2010,09:44)I'd like to begin with the most simple one, the one that doesn't belong:  Revelation 1:11REVELATION 1:11The phrase “I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last” found in the King James Bible and a few others, is NOT found in some of the oldest Greek manuscripts, such as the Alexandrine, Sinaitic, and Codex Ephr…[Read more]

Quote (shara @ Aug. 30 2010,04:26)Jesus was not God.        * He was born a babe (Luke 2:7).        * He “increased in wisdom” (Luke 2:52).        * He “learned obedience by the things that he suffered” (Heb. 5:8).        * He was “in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin” (Heb. 4:15).        * He “offered up prayers and supplic…[Read more]

No wrong thread.I know you are making a point, but the real point is that if such things are more important to you, then you go to places where such things are discussed.Why would I go to a forum about cars and talk about soccer for example?

Salvation is a free gift, but the gift is given under the condition that you are repentant.If you are not repentant, then you renege on the gift.Being in a state of repentance is not a work, it is a state.