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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Prophet Hawking in the forum Creation & Science 16 years ago

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 05 2010,14:18)In real time, the universe would appear to begin its expansion at a minimum radius. At first, the expansion would be what is called inflationary. That is, the universe would double in size every tiny fraction of a second, just as prices double every year in certain countries. The world record for economic inflation,…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Prophet Hawking in the forum Creation & Science 16 years ago

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 05 2010,14:18)As we have discussed already, you not being able to believe something is no reason to suppose it did not happen.Correct. Now think about how you don't believe in God and think that this is no reason to suppose that he doesn't exist.At least believe your own words, and if you do, I will take that as progress.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Prophet Hawking in the forum Creation & Science 16 years ago

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 05 2010,13:48)What god was that again?StuartMore smoke from Stu.

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    Quote (gollamudi @ Sep. 01 2010,21:05)Hi all,This passage created mess among Christian believers. The so called pre-existence of Jesus was meant by this passage can never make any difference who believes God alone can be the creator if at all He created this universe. Christianity wants Jesus to be the co-creator so that they can make God. Is this…[Read more]

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    Quote (princess of the king @ Sep. 05 2010,23:09)Is it also strange that this poll was created in the believers sections, and the one who it was intended to ridicule is not allowed to post here. At times ones' must make themselves feel blessed and highly favored for they must not think they already are. Now that's what I call humor.Actually it is…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Prophet Hawking in the forum Creation & Science 16 years ago

    Yeah Stu, explain your understanding in a way that can be followed.You know the real genius is not in using big words and spouting of what others say.Look at Google. It has the most simple interface and yet it can search for almost anything in less than a second. All the complicated stuff is hidden away. In fact I would go as far to say that…[Read more]

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    Ah yeah, I think.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Prophet Hawking in the forum Creation & Science 16 years ago

    Quote (JustAskin @ Sep. 04 2010,21:49)Stu,Please explain to me again what you mean by 'Religious Platitude', that term you seem to use almost as much as Roo uses 'Anathema' and WJ uses 'AdHominem'I will explain it JA. They try to baffle people with bigger words when their simple logic fails.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Prophet Hawking in the forum Creation & Science 16 years ago

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 04 2010,21:01)I am interested in the question of the appearance of space, time, energy and matter, amongst many things. You appear to be interested in a magic car.And the faith required to believe that it all came from nothing.I don't have a problem with your interest in space, time, energy, matter, etc. I have a similar…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Prophet Hawking in the forum Creation & Science 16 years ago

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 04 2010,21:13)Quote (t8 @ Sep. 04 2010,20:55)Quote (Stu @ Sep. 04 2010,20:54)Quote (t8 @ Sep. 04 2010,20:31)I am just as interested in seeing what particles can be discovered as you. Whatever the outcome, it cannot disprove God.What god?StuartThe source of all.Religious Platitude.Yet again.StuartThis topic is not about who is…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Prophet Hawking in the forum Creation & Science 16 years ago

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 04 2010,21:14)Quote (t8 @ Sep. 04 2010,20:55)Are you in Christchurch?No, in Wellington.StuartSame.We could catch up. Maybe get a coffee at an atheist cafe or something.

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    Yes they got off very lightly as far as casualties. However, the city is predicted to being hit with severe northwest gales today. Not a good combo.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Prophet Hawking in the forum Creation & Science 16 years ago

    Are you in Christchurch?

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Prophet Hawking in the forum Creation & Science 16 years ago

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 04 2010,20:54)Quote (t8 @ Sep. 04 2010,20:31)I am just as interested in seeing what particles can be discovered as you. Whatever the outcome, it cannot disprove God.What god?StuartThe source of all.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Prophet Hawking in the forum Creation & Science 16 years ago

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 04 2010,20:17)Quote (t8 @ Sep. 04 2010,20:13)Quote (Stu @ Sep. 03 2010,19:47)What you can do is say that there is something now, and demonstrate that there is more than there used to be in an expanding universe, then extrapolate backwards to t=0, the Big Bang, at which point you can see the maths says there was nothing.OK, lets…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Prophet Hawking in the forum Creation & Science 16 years ago

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 04 2010,20:17)Quote (t8 @ Sep. 04 2010,20:13)Quote (Stu @ Sep. 03 2010,19:47)What you can do is say that there is something now, and demonstrate that there is more than there used to be in an expanding universe, then extrapolate backwards to t=0, the Big Bang, at which point you can see the maths says there was nothing.OK, lets…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Prophet Hawking in the forum Creation & Science 16 years ago

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 03 2010,19:47)Are you talking in absolute and final terms now, or will you wait the next installment of insights from the ever higher energy collisions being planned in Switzerland / France?What are you on about.I am just as interested in seeing what particles can be discovered as you. Whatever the outcome, it cannot disprove…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Prophet Hawking in the forum Creation & Science 16 years ago

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 03 2010,19:47)What you can do is say that there is something now, and demonstrate that there is more than there used to be in an expanding universe, then extrapolate backwards to t=0, the Big Bang, at which point you can see the maths says there was nothing.OK, lets go back to 0.So how do we progress to 1 from there?

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    http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news….o-haitiThere was a major earthquake in Christchurch, (the second biggest city in New Zealand) this morning. The magnitude is the same as the Haiti quake, but the epicentre was 40 km from the main populated area. New Zealand buildings have good construction codes to make sure buildings withstand strong…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Prophet Hawking in the forum Creation & Science 16 years ago

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 03 2010,15:58)As for t8's attack on Hawking's character, perhaps t8 will make an honest person of himself and put up the mathematics that shows Hawking doesn't know what he is talking about. Failing that, perhaps he could justify his use of religious metaphor in describing the nature of scientific understanding.Stu. It is not…[Read more]

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