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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 1 month ago

    Gene. You are teaching that will is the product of nature.Yet Christ who being in the form of God emptied himself and came in the form of man.Your idea suggests that Christ's will was the result of either nature.So his divine nature willed to empty himself and his flesh nature willed to obey God.I don't hold to your thinking. I believe that will…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 21 2010,00:57)T8……….Do you (really) believe GOD Changes our Hearts and therefore Changes our Desires and or WILLS?. Or do you think He gets our (Permission) to Change us first by asking our own Carmel minds if it is OK to? Do you (really) believe He is the Potter and we the Clay, and He does with us as He so…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 19 2010,12:03)T8……….A WILL can NOT be a WILL if It is NOT (INFLUENCED)> to say possesses a “FREE WILL” is an OXYMORON, It simply can not be a WILL if IT is FREE of everything. What many do is mistake our (LIBERTY TO EXERCISE) OUR CAPTIVATED OR INFLUENCED WILLS WITH US POSSESSING A “FREE” WILL (IN) US. Do you see…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 19 2010,12:03)T8………No I am not free to Sin because the Spirit (causes me to think differently) I would never be “FREE” to SIN” that would go against my New Nature i recieved from GOD,Gene, are you not aware that even though we can be led by the Spirit and we can also choose to do that which our flesh…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 1 month ago

    Gene.Are you free to choose to sin or to be led by the Spirit?If so, then that is free will right there. You are free to do either because they are both options for you.If we are not free to choose either, then neither can be we held accountable for doing either and that notion renders a lot of scripture as useless because much scripture requires…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 15 2010,02:53)FREE imply s FREEDOM of ANYTHING.Free actually means that we are able to make choices among a given set of options. It doesn't imply you can do anything.e.g., I may not be free to live in a million dollar house or free to travel to Europe because I may not have enough money.But if i have $800 dollars, I am…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 14 2010,08:28)EDJ…………Please show where i (EVER) said we do not have WILLS. again you are not representing me honestly.If we have a will Gene as you say, then we are responsible for it. And with the will we choose.

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    OK. How does something come from nothing?I await your sensible answer Stu.

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    Before the Big Bang there was nothing.We know this because we were there and testify that there was nothing.LOL.After all, seeing is believing.

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    The true Church is the Body of Christ. The body is global and so if I am referring to those who belong to God and live in the city of Ephesus, then I can rightly say, the Church in Ephesus or the Church of Ephesus. If I am referring to believers who live in Priscilla and Aquila's house, then I can rightly say, to the Church in Priscilla and…[Read more]

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    Quote (JustAskin @ Sep. 12 2010,18:28)Stu,String Theory… ha! – have you figured out how long a piece of string is yet?Nice one JA.Stu, show me the string.Regardless, if it is true, then someone is at the end of the string. Strings can't come from nothing.I like it how they say there are strings and have never seen them, and deny God which at a…[Read more]

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    Quote (JustAskin @ Sep. 12 2010,18:40)Stu,Refinement of WHAT? – Refinement of what: Only what he has DISCOVERED – What has he Discovered: Only what has been CREATED – What has been Created: Everything in EXISTENCE both SEEN and UNSEEN – Science is only uncovering what has already been created (“For what was covered will be uncovered – What is…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 12 2010,11:38)Actually science has nothing to say about gods: it is not the problem of a scientist that there is no unambiguous evidence whatever for the existence of any god.You would think that, with so many gods out there maybe one would have accidentally left a real trace of its existence. But no!I can only conclude then…[Read more]

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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 25 2009,05:34)Quote (Not3in1 @ July 25 2009,05:40)Look at various footnotes on this verse, bro.  Do your research.  It's not as clear as you are praying it is.Love,MandyMandy,The notes make no difference. Jesus is declared to be Lord in the verse. No matter how you parse it Jesus is Lord. Christianity 1…[Read more]

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    Atheist: What’s this fly doing in my soup?Waiter: Praying.Atheist: Very funny. I can’t eat this. Take it back.Waiter: You see? The fly’s prayers were answered.

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    A minister, a priest, a rabbi, and an atheist meet in a bar at 10:00 a.m. The bartender asks the minister what he’ll have, and the minister orders a martini. The priest also orders a martini, as does the rabbi. When the bartender asks the atheist what he wants, the atheist says he'd like a cup of coffee. “Why aren’t you having a martini like those…[Read more]

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    Why did the atheist throw her watch out the window?She wanted to see if it was designed intelligently enough to evolve into a bird.

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    Ding ding.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Kerwin in the forum Prayer & Advice 16 years, 2 months ago

    Yes I will pray.Blessings.

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    Stu. Satan means adversary.Are you an adversary against God?

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