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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 04 2011,07:28)So…DOES A ROCK BECOME TWO 'BEINGS' AFTER IT IS CUT IN HALF AND FORMED IN TO TWO INDIVIDUAL IMAGES? OR IS IT THE SAME 'BEING' BUT NOW EXISTING IN TWO SEPARATE SHAPES AND IDENTIES?KJIf I can hold a rock in each hand, I have 2 rocks.They are both rock (as in nature) but each rock is an individual…

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Attention wj in the forum Debates 15 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 05 2011,02:36)No matter how you cut it if Jesus is of the “God kind” then he is God and no less God than God or he is not of the “God kind” at all.The argument is no God-kind. But that Jesus is (not) God himself. It is written that he existed with divine nature or God's form, and that he has returned to the glory…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Attention wj in the forum Debates 15 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 04 2011,02:54)Fortunately for us it is not what t8 and Mike says that counts. It is what God said that counts. God called the progeny of Adam by the term “THE ADAM.”OK, so Eve is Adam?Who is the man then?Adam is the man, and adam is man.That means that Eve is adam, but not Adam.However you are free to disagree, but…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Mar. 05 2011,08:33)Quote (t8 @ Mar. 04 2011,18:27)Your belief that God doesn't exist doesn't change anything in reality.t8Will you fall out of a designed aeroplane, the existence of which demonstrates that it is foolishness to believe the universe came from nothing, and into a cloud thinking that it would be silly of atheists to…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Attention wj in the forum Debates 15 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 05 2011,09:09)HeHeI knew what t8 was doing and was glad that he reminded me of the post!  :DWJOoh sneaky one WJ.However, I believe that all things should come into the light, even if it proves me wrong.I would rather the light shine on the truth so that we can all be better off as a result.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Attention wj in the forum Debates 15 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 05 2011,10:34)IDENTITYIdentity 1. The sameness of essential character (Webster's)All men are “The Adam” and Christ is “The God”KJKJ, if you are having problems understanding the concept, then try to think of it as 1) nature2) personOr flesh/kindand soul/individual.Take yourself.You are:1) a human being,2) KJ or…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Attention wj in the forum Debates 15 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 05 2011,02:36)Do you have a scripture that says “adam” is less “adam” than “Adam”?Do you have a scripture that says “Adam” is more “adam than “adam”?Is Adam more human than adam?Is adam less human than Adam?Ha ha ha.There is Adam and there is adam.Eve is adam, but she is not Adam.Is it clear enough now?

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    Your belief that God doesn't exist doesn't change anything in reality.

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    Quote (Stu @ Mar. 04 2011,14:14)So would I.There is no such thing as gods.StuartYou wish.Also, you can't change reality. You can only change your perception of it. Try jumping out of a plane onto a cloud. You can imagine that it is bouncy and soft, but sorry to say, you will hurtle toward the ground.

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    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 02 2011,14:47)Hi T8,If the church board refuses to do the right thing,you very well may be right, the probably should all be 'fired'!But this is NOT the issue here! The issue is should Jack expose the sin.I did mention “If your brother sins…But regardless, I think we are on the same page here.

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    Quote (princess @ Mar. 03 2011,21:39)Stuart, either your for natural selection or your not, your comment is double minded. or you are just using the example for a crutch to validate your belief in abortion, due to you have nothing else to stand on. so to take life to save a life, is that not a basis of mass murders, take the life to save a life.…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Mar. 01 2011,15:58)Don't remember you saying that before, but anyway, I've never been mugged in our great atheistic country, or anywhere else for that matter.New Zealand also has a lot of people that believe in God. More do than don't I think.Anyway, my statement still stands. If you were mugged, I put my money on the mugger not have…[Read more]

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    Thanks for that.And here are the latest quakes in New Zealand.http://www.geonet.org.nz/earthquake/quakes/recent_quakes.html

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    I can tell you that people in Wellington are now a bit worried. We received another jolt last night. 4.7 on the Richter scale, the second moderate quake to hit the city in less than a week.

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 26 2011,05:12)In what sense is Jesus not God right now?Please answer the question.WJHe is not God in identity. He is not the one identified as the one true God. He is not the person who is the Almighty God.

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 28 2011,03:52)Yeah, I've had the same trouble with orange and cyan.  It really limits our choices.  Maybe t8 should make the pages black, and then we could use all the more subtle colors.  :)mikeBut black text everywhere would disappear. Might not be a bad thing. :)

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs WJ in the forum Debates 15 years, 8 months ago

    Take your time WJ.I asked 2 questions and you have now answered which option you will choose. You didn't need to ask if I have a timeline. We all do. You only needed to say which option it was.Thanks.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Attention wj in the forum Debates 15 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 03 2011,07:30)Therefore adam also “identifies” Adam.Once again as I said before, if you see a creature that runs on four legs and barks then you would “identify” that animal as a Dog.What t8 and Mike are trying to argue is the Dog is not a Dog because it isn't the original Dog. Thier logic falls apart.Wrong again…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Attention wj in the forum Debates 15 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 03 2011,07:30)Jackt8 and Mike try to make the argument that Adam is in identity not also adam.Yet Adam is as much a part of humanity as adam.Your assumption about my stance is absolutely incorrect WJ. In fact I preach the exact opposite if you care to read my many previous posts on this subject. If you got that…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Attention wj in the forum Debates 15 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 03 2011,09:40)Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 02 2011,11:10)Amen Keith! God is light. Christ is the TRUE light (John 1:9). The implication is clear. If Christ was the mere reflection of God, then He could not Himself be the TRUE (or genuine) light.JackYet the disciples are now the “light”, right?  Are they all “God”…[Read more]

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