Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 10 2011,07:32)Keith,Yes they are running away from the truth of God. Jesus said, “I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?”It is US that agrees that there is one God the Father, and it is you that agrees that there is one God the Father,…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 10 2011,07:20)If God is all powerfull and sits in a Throne ruling the Universe then I identify him as God or the Father.If Jesus is called God and has all power and rules the Universe from Gods Throne then I identify him as God or the Son.If we sit with the so-called God -the son, then follow your logic through and…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 10 2011,07:20)They are just sticking there head in the sand with all these smokescreens about nature and identity.Wrong.The distinction is very important.Just as there is a distinction between Adam (the first man) and adam (all who share his nature).It is the lack of this distinction that gets you guys into all sorts…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 10 2011,03:41)t8,Hey, isn't Mike the one who has suggested that God is a species by his assertions that God begat Jesus like a human father begets a son?God is not a species because He cannot procreate. But hte scripture is very clear that the Son is the “radiance of His glory” and the “EXACT representation of the…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Feb. 24 2011,06:33)t8, Yes I am the same being as the person who calls me son (my father). I possess the same qualities and constitution (Webster's). I have the same essential nature and substance (F & W).KJPlease let us know what your father's name is so we can call you by that.

So Stuart. What is the first cause of all if it is not a creator?Before you shoot down a possible, you have to have a definite.Again, what was first before anything else?If you have no answer (we both know you do not), then you are being silly if you shoot down possibilities.At least others (even prophet Hawking) have thought much more deeply on…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Feb. 05 2011,11:39)HOW is “the equation solved”?What “equation”?You have said absolutely nothing here theodorej.StuartSomething has to be infinite, otherwise it all came from nothing. Solved:God is eternal. He doesn't have a beginning.If you don't believe in God, then replace him with something eternal and let us know what that…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Mar. 09 2011,16:07)Quote (t8 @ Mar. 09 2011,07:48)Nice rebuttal Stu. Very clever. I wish I could have thought of it But we are talking about the need of a creator. Not who that creator is.No point in jumping the gun. Baby steps first, then one day you might be able to run.OK then, what need is there of a creator?StuartStart here.It…[Read more]

OK. Of the three choices available to us pertaining to how everything came to exist. You deny a creator by bias alone, leaving you 2 choices, either nothing or something eternal and non-living.When you dissect those 2 options, both an eternal something that is non-living and nothing, you can clearly see that they are impossible and foolish.Yet you…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Mar. 09 2011,04:00)But I wouldn't give you 2 cents for Mike.What about 1 cent?

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 08 2011,05:15)t8And I didn't say that Jesus is the Father did I? Notice how you change it up using a “name” that identifies Jesus rather than using a title like “human” or “man” that identifies his nature as being like us, human.That was a sleight of hand as usual with your words.If you were honest you would have…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 09 2011,14:26)Who makes his angels spirits (their intellects),What translation are you using? I have never seen (intellects) in any scripture.

It took hundreds of words in the last three replies to communicate 8 new words.See how easy it is to follow my comment, when you don't unnecessarily quote all of the above?Tell you what. You wouldn't want to print a topic in Heaven Net, (unless you wanted a big carbon credit bill or didn't mind reading each post about 5 times).

Hi Irene. It is certainly an interesting topic and you raise some pertinent verses on the subject.Quick question: If Hell/Hades doesn't exist, why is it said to be thrown into the Lake of Fire? And why does Jesus give a parable based on it?

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 09 2011,03:37)I will not debate with someone who denys all scripture as being inspired. What is the point?Does that also include 1 John 5:7-8 (The Johannine Comma), John 5:4, Acts 8:37, and Mark 16:9-20?

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 09 2011,03:29)So Thanks Mike for admitting that the word “God” in referring to Jesus can mean that Jesus is The True God and that he is your “true god”!John 17:3Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.Question to you WJ. If Jesus Christ is identified as…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 05 2011,19:17)ATTENTION ALL:The English transliteration underneath the Hebrew words in Genesis 1:27 and 6:7 in the Hebrew Interlinear is “e adm” (the adam).http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/OTpdf/gen1.pdfhttp://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/OTpdf/gen6.pdfAll men are “e adm” (the adam) and…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Mar. 08 2011,18:52)TO ALL:I like this quote which I found on another discussion boardQuote Throw in the analogy of one Human Nature but 6.4 billion persons and you've got an easy transition to the more complex issues. If we can have one nature with 6.4 billion persons why is it so hard to fathom that God has one nature and…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 05 2011,19:24)All men are “the adam” because they have the same identity as the first AdamIdentity 1. sameness of essential character (Webster's)Therefore, Christ is “the God” because He has the same identity as God. Hebrews 1 says that Christ is the “EXACT representation of the Father's substance” (or essence).KJSo…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Mar. 09 2011,10:34)The holding place for the dead (hades) was cast into the lake of fire when Christ returned in ad70. Upon their death the righteous go straight to God now in their bodies from heaven. The wicked go straight to the lake of fire when they die.KJThat could be the case if we assume that we are bound in time and…[Read more]