• Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Nick,

    “To reject Paul is to reject his Master Jesus Christ”; so Paul saves too?!!? Do you not see the Idolatry in that statement? If this is what you believe, you can keep it; I want nothing to do with it…utterly stunned!

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    @Nick,

    Has nothing to do with control, it’s me seeking answers. Answers that you are either afraid to answer for fear of the repercussions it will have on your belief system or you have no answer too. You say there is nothing new under the sun; yet, I have apparently uncovered something “new” because no one, including yourself, can answer the…[Read more]

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    @Nick,

    You realize you have addressed nothing in anything I’ve written; so what is your point in responding? Your religious responses do NOT answer my questions; either answer them and offer insight or remain silent. Your meaningless responses further solidifies what I am discovering and confirms that you don’t know why you believe what you b…[Read more]

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    @Nick

    I gave you the Bible texts and what do you do with them?

    You dodge, always the same….and you call that being anointed with the Spirit.

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    @Nick

    “I maintain that Jesus was God”

    Yes In the biginning “the Word” (the Son OF GOD )was God)

    Because my father and my mother were human beings, I am a human being, likewise because Jesus is the literal BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD, HE IS OF THE SAME NATURE AS THE FATHER: GOD( divine nature)
    VERY SIMPLE TO UNDERSTAND.

     

    …..

    AND the Word was mad…[Read more]

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    @Nick

    Writing interprets writing…
    the verse that Proclaimer gave establishes the truth, why resist against the truth?

    One another

    Jesus said unto them, Verily,verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

    John 8:48

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    @Nick

    Me

    Authentic conversion influences hereditary and acquired propensities for evil”

    You

    intellectual nonsense filled with long impressive words from theologians.

    Me

    Tell me how it’s wrong.

    Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.(1John3:4)

    Moreover the law entered, that the offence m…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Nick,

    You still don’t understand, I am merely asking questions and offering additional thoughts, albeit contrary to what I have been taught for over 40 years. You still have answered zero questions; which tells me you aren’t as strong in your faith as you think you are. You keep saying “nothing new under the sun”; then my questions should have…[Read more]

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    @Nick,

    I’m not asking anyone to join me. I’m asking questions that no one seems to be able or willing to answer. Your responses are an excellent example and proves you cannot answer them either. Am I not suppose to question anything? Am I suppose to just blindly accept all that the church tells me? Is blind faith even faith?

    Oh wait, I suppose…[Read more]

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    @Nick

    It is obvious you don’t want to be a part of the conversation, as you have brought nothing to it except contention. Why are you here? Reciprocity is what makes a conversation work; ask a question, have question answered and vice versa. A concept that apparently is foreign to you.

    Good luck!

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Nick,

    Did you just ask me a question without answering mine? Let’s do this, answer one of my questions and I’ll answer one of yours. I am tired of this question “goal post” moving and me required to answer everyone’s questions while mine remain unanswered.

    By the way, what am I suppose to repent of?

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    @Nick,

    So what you’re saying is you aren’t going to answer any of my questions…understood.

    Good thing Proclaimer created this website so we could discuss our like thoughts.

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Nick,

    I am quoting scripture from the OT and comparing it to its usage in NT; and asking why they don’t match. Apparently my questions are to difficult for you or by answering them truthfully it will overturn your world just like it did mine and it scares you!

    Either answer the questions or ignore the conversation!

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Nick,

    Why are you so afraid to answer my questions?

     

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Nick,

    So far you have offered nothing to this conversation, other than accusations and condemnation; none of which answer any of the questions I’ve asked. I asked one primary question, Paul said “according to scripture” the Messiah was to die for the sins of mankind, be buried and raised up on the third day. This means it is written in the OT; f…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Nick,
    You: “Understand that the anointed sons of God in Christ Jesus explain and interpret the OT.”

    Me: Are we to just accept their interpretations as being truth or do we verify what they’re saying against what the OT actually says? Is there an amount of “twisting” of God’s words that is acceptable?

    Anyways, what you’re saying is you have no i…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Nick,

    I need you to focus like a laser beam on what I am going to show you; then grab your favorite bible and verify it for yourself.

    Rom 10:5-8

    5 For Moses writes that the man who practices the righteousness which is based on law shall live by that righteousness. 6 But the righteousness based on faith speaks as follows: “Do not say in your h…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Nick,

    You’re “shooting” the messenger; I didn’t make the claim, Paul did. I’m verifying the claim and can’t find it. Hence the question to where in the OT is Paul’s claim. So instead of answering the question, most get defensive and then combative as I ask more questions or offer explanations contrary to what is taught. If the answer is so o…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Nick,

    Maybe you can answer the question surrounding what is stated in I Cor 15:3,4 where Paul states “according to scripture” the Messiah was to die for the sins of mankind and be buried and raised from the dead after three days. Paul makes the claim and there was no NT in the first century, so Paul was speaking of it being “prophesied” in the…[Read more]

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    @Nick,

    You: “But knowing there are faults does not mean we are fit to be a judge of scripture.”

    Me: I’m not “judging” scripture, I am pointing out the corruption of the translators; if the tenses, plurality, or the punctuation is changed anywhere, the meaning can be changed and a bias inserted. The fact the translators of the KJ changed t…[Read more]

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