Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 26 2011,18:05)Mike,That translation is in error.  The Lord Jesus Christ is written in the nominative case which means that it is a subject, not an object of a preposition that your translation would require.KathiHi Kathi,I'm looking into it.  But right now I have to take my boy swimming.  Do you have any idea how hot po…[Read more]

Jack,Sometimes I think YOU are a kindergartner! First of all, if Jesus has the “God nature” because of being begotten by God, then JESUS WAS BEGOTTEN BY GOD, and is NOT the God who begot him.Secondly, an angel is a spirit being that is a messenger of God. Is Jesus a spirit being that is a messenger of God, Jack?Is God the messenger of anyone?…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 26 2011,16:14)Hi Mike,The Word came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him(The Word), gave he(The Word)power to become the sons of God. (John 1:11-12 / Heb.2:28)”The Word” was made flesh, (and the Apostles beheld the father's glory,) as he sired his only begotten son.That was the first recorded…[Read more]

Back pedal?  Never.  I will continue to learn and move forward.You are correct and make a point that many scholars apparently overlooked.  Which then caused me bewilderment, and so forced me to research a little. 15Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle. 16Now our Lo…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Aug. 25 2011,22:05)This is crazy.  Ya, Noah was 500.  He had the 3 sons.  (apparently only the 3 sons.)  100 years later, still only those three sons I guess, because they are the only ones on the ark.  Bizarre.  And Noah got to be five hundred years old. After that Noah became father to Shem, Ham and Ja′pheth.If he had child…[Read more]

So Jesus IS the only begotten from the Father, and therefore IS the one who had the glory as of the only begotten from the Father?

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 26 2011,02:32)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 26 2011,11:05)Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 24 2011,20:01)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 25 2011,12:44)Yes Ed……………..”as of” the only begotten.  Go on…………..Hi Mike,Pretty simple really: The glory is God's, which is first seen in (“Jesus”=74) his “God Son”(74),then also seen in us. (See Rom…[Read more]

Pierre,Do you concur that none of Noah's boys had children of their own until they were over 100 years old?

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 24 2011,20:01)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 25 2011,12:44)Yes Ed……………..”as of” the only begotten.  Go on…………..Hi Mike,Pretty simple really: The glory is God's, which is first seen in (“Jesus”=74) his “God Son”(74),then also seen in us. (See Romans 5:2, 8:18, 9:23-24)God blessEd J Hi Ed,So you're saying that God is H…[Read more]

Bump for Kathi and Jack

Nor any other translation, HM.

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 24 2011,23:15)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 25 2011,05:07)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 23 2011,23:30)You made it clear “I didn't see the furthering of the conversation as anything other than a big waste of my time and energy.”And than you hypocritally continued.I was giving you a couple of things to think about, that's all.…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 24 2011,23:16)Mike,God will not divide himself for a kingdom divided will not stand.Nor did I divide myself when I begot my son.  How does this answer the point that all of God's creations can beget natural offspring after themselves, but apparently God Almighty cannot?  Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 24 2011,23:16)As for Proverbs 3…[Read more]

I did not receive my gospel from any man, but from Pat.Marty, do you think of “Pat” as a man or a woman when you read those green words?peace,mike

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 24 2011,21:01)Hi Mike:Let's see what the scriptures state relative to this:Hi Marty,I didn't see the long passage you posted as saying anything other than what I just told you.  The last Adam BECAME a life giving SPIRIT. (Verse 45)Nor did you highlight any part of the passage or make any notes about it.  So, try again, and t…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 25 2011,16:05)Will you have the wisdom of God? Jesus does.What scripture tells you this, Kathi?Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 25 2011,16:05)Will you have the power of God? Jesus does.What scripture tells you this?Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 25 2011,16:05)Will you be giving eternal life to anyone, Irene?  Jesus can.Yes.  Jesus' own G…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 25 2011,11:23)Hmmm…Let's see, 2 Corinthians was written by Paul, right.  So did he preach the unity of the Father and the Son?2 Thess 2:16 Now may our Lord Jesus Christ Himself and God our Father, who has loved us and given us eternal comfort and good hope by grace, 17comfort and strengthen your hearts in every good work…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 24 2011,22:22)2 Corinthians 11:3-43 But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. 4 For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the Spirit y…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 25 2011,11:06)The 'other' does not need to be the 'father' of himself.But if Jesus is a part of the “compound unity” of the God Most High, and also the Son OF the God Most High, then “human nature Jesus” is the Son of “God nature Jesus”. Therefore, according to your doctrine, Jesus IS his own Son.

Quote (csaliba @ Aug. 25 2011,14:17)There were two kinds of baptism,which were one of John the baptist immersion in the water.and the other of Jesus.Yes Charles,TWO baptisms. Not a third one in the triune name. At least it wasn't one that any disciple ever followed in cannonized scripture. And that strikes me as odd, if Jesus in fact COMMANDED…[Read more]