Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 28 2011,23:26)To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen. (Rom. 16:27)Ed, It is apparent that you understand this verse to be saying that God is the ONLY Being in existence who has glory at all.  You are mistaken, and I will be happy to CONTINUE showing you the scriptures that prove this in the thread where…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 29 2011,16:25)So if it says in John 1:1 the word was with God and the word was God, and the above verses show God was alone in creating the earth, then what?Hi Shimmer,First of all, John 1:1 doesn't really say what you think it does. I would be happy to educate you on the common mistranslation of that scripture if you would…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 29 2011,08:56)MIke starts this whole thing off with untruths saying the Word meaning “age or eon”, that simply is not true just another 'MYSTERY RELIGIOUS TEACHINGS”Hi Gene,Re-read the OP. I did not say the Word means “ages”. I said the GREEK WORD used in Hebrews 1:2, which was translated as “universe”, really means…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 28 2011,23:01)Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 29 2011,22:19)Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 29 2011,15:17)This looks like  interestingHi Pierre,It is not going to be very interesting if Mike is allowed to keep deleting posts!God blessEd J eddystay fixed on the tread and answer the question and be truthfulis this not the most importing thing…[Read more]

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No Ed, we have NOT discussed WHO the Word is in this post. The ONLY thing we've discussed so far is whether or not you agree that all things were created through the Word of God.Well………………….DO YOU?

Ed, how did you end up in your mind about the “glory” thing? Are you now convinced that the Word had the glory of a son OF God, and not of God Himself?(See Ed? THIS is the thread for you to post your Romans scripture so that I can show you your error in understanding it.)

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 28 2011,21:38)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 29 2011,14:18)   The points you made and questions you asked have already been answered in my previous post.  Hi Mike,Are these not your words? (See my point #8)God blessEd J Since I have not asked this question before, you could hardly of answered it already.Are these not YOUR words?

So Ed, do we agree that all things were created through the Word of God or not?(Note, the question has nothing at all to do with “glory” of anyone.)

Okay Pierre!

No, I do not agree, nor did you ask that as a question of me in your last post.

Hi Ed,The points you made and questions you asked have already been answered in my previous post.  If in fact this “word of solemn oath” is the Word from John 1:1, then this scripture clearly says that Word came AFTER the Law.I didn't write the scripture, Ed.  You call my “defense” supposition and conjecture.  It wasn't actually a “defense”, be…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 28 2011,20:13)This is an interesting discussion.Thanks for setting that one up Mike.Yeah, I stole the premise from a post you made, but don't tell anyone, okay?

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 28 2011,19:57)Hi Mike,All things were created BY “The Word” of God ALONE, because of (or through) Jesus death on the cross; do you agree?God blessEd JNo Ed, I don't agree. Many things were created way before Jesus died on a stake. So, do we agree that all things were created through the Word of God or not?peace,mike

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This thread is now open to ALL.

This thread is now open to ALL.

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 28 2011,14:26)I already told you before you made this thread that I will not spend my time on thisAnd why is that, Kathi? Are these not scriptures I'm trying to discuss with you? Are you not interested in discussing scriptures? I know why you don't want this discussion, Kathi. We all do.

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 28 2011,14:26)I can't answer for satan, nor will I entertain what was on his mind.Kathi,Certainly you could venture an educated guess as to whether or not Satan was trying to get the God who created him to worship him by offering kingdoms which were originally GIVEN to him BY that God, can't you?

But God already made man to toil on the earth after what Adam did. And it doesn't address the point we're discussing: WHY were there already “others” out there in the land of Nod, living away from God's presence?