Okay. Thanks, Irene.

Thank you for your help, Pierre.  Kathi wants no part of this thread for a very selfish reason.  It clearly shows that Satan, who has actually lived in heaven and knows all the players, KNOWS that Jesus is NOT the God who created him and his demons.  Satan and his demons know exactly what all the scriptures teach:  Jesus is the SON OF God, and not…[Read more]

Hi Kathi,This is info Irene recently posted.  I want to know what you think about this Greek rule of grammar:The rule of Greek grammar on the partitive genitive proves this, because the construction, “firstborn of every creature “, is in Greek grammar called the partitive genitive, that is, the genitive which contains as a part of its cont…[Read more]

Hi Irene,Thanks for that post! For a minute, I almost thought I had written it, for I've said almost all of these same things to people here! Could you tell me where you found it? I'd love to read more from this person.peace,mike

Hi Kathi,I reposted my OP in a thread called “John 8:25”. Will you please add your input there?And we can keep this thread for the “ONE, TWO, or THREE” discussion we are having.peace,mike

Hi Kathi,I'm sorry to hear about your friend's tragic loss.  You have missed the point of this thread because I, like an idiot, once again titled one of my threads with misleading words.  The OP shows the intention of this thread, but you sure wouldn't know if from the title I gave it.  I will transfer my OP and compiled results to another th…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 30 2011,00:16)This remark sounds like you have no clue how language works. Says the man who thinks the EXPLICITE word “ALL” actually means “NEW”. Kerwin, address my point about Rev 21:5 please.  Does the word “NEW” in that verse mean that God DIDN'T make ALL things?Address whether or not you believe God is incapable of…[Read more]

All things are said to have been created by God.  All things are said to have been created by YHWH.All things are said to have been created by our heavenly Father.Does this mean that THREE persons have created all things?  Or does it mean that the ONE person who created all things has been called by many different names?I'm sure that everyone h…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 28 2011,23:26)To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen. (Rom. 16:27)Hi Ed,Do you understand this scripture to be saying that ONLY God has glory?

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 29 2011,10:12)You are mixing up kind and rank in what you wrote.  Therefore it seems that you believe God himself is an angel with the rank of God and Jesus is an angel with the rank of Heir.  No Kerwin.  I believe that God is a spirit being.  Do YOU believe that?Wouldn't a spirit being beget a DIFFERENT spirit being who is…[Read more]

Verses 6 and 7:  “I will give you all their authority and splendor, for it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to.  So if you worship me, it will all be yours.”Q:  Is Satan seriously asking his God and Creator to worship him?  Is he trying to bribe the One who GAVE him the kingdoms of the world with those very kingdoms that we…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 29 2011,18:53)The resurrection made who He was evident to Thomas, remember what Thomas said when He saw evidence of His resurrection.Kathi, Jehovah is the Most High God. (Gen 14:22)  And Jesus is the SON OF the Most High God.  (Mark 5:7)  Do you believe these scriptures?

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 29 2011,18:50)If you don't want to build on our agreement that it's “The Word's” glory that John is speaking of in John 1:14 (which you agreed to), that's fine with me.I thought you were seeking resolution with me, my mistaken. I agreed to it then, and I agree to it now. But we are not discussing the glory of the Word, God, or…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 29 2011,18:35)For the record here, are you saying that you don't believe that Hebrews 7:28 is saying ” “The Word” maketh the son? “Ed,I have answered that question very CLEARLY in the Incarnation thread. Page 238, second post.ADDRESS IT OVER THERE, PLEASE.

Quote (david @ Aug. 29 2011,01:12)Adam and Eve   Cain   AbelSeth (130 years after Adam; 5:3-5, another seed in place of Abel; 4:25)Enosh (105 years after Seth was born)Kenan (90 years after Enosh born)Mahalalel (70 years after Kenan)Jared (65 years….)Enoch (162 years)Methuselah (65 years)Lamech (187 years)Noah (182 years)Shem/Ham/Japheth (Noah 5…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 29 2011,01:50)The consensus is to believe that they were created spiritual beings from their beginning. But what piece of information or what scripture provides the proof of this?This is from the Book of Enoch, which was thought to be “scripture” by Jesus' disciples.  It is part of the judgement handed down by God to the angels…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 29 2011,18:12)Hi Mike,If you agree with me and Gene that Jehovah created everything alone,why do you say Jesus helped him; can't you see those ideas are contradictory?I never said Jesus “helped” God. I said exactly what many scriptures teach: All things are FROM God, all things are THROUGH our Lord Jesus Christ.Ed, if you…[Read more]

Ed,Ask this question in the thread where we have already been discussing this subject…………and I will help the scriptures teach you.

Hi Kathi,To BOTH of your posts, I only repeat:If Kathi thinks that Jesus being MADE the Lord of lords by his OWN God equates Jesus with the God who MADE him both Lord and Christ, then SHE has much to learn.Acts 2:36“Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.”Just read the und…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 28 2011,23:48)Hi Mike,And we beheld his(The Word's) glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father. (John 1:14)You can clearly see that Hebrews 7:28 says “The Word” maketh the Son; right?Hebrews 7:28 For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word(TheSeed “IS” HolySpirit) of the oath, which was…[Read more]