Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Sep. 04 2011,15:44)Mikeboll wrote:Quote I've gone through each verse in John up to the point where Jesus said this.  I've made a list of the things Jesus had claimed to be up until that point.  I found no direct words of Jesus where he had claimed to be God Almighty, or equal to Him.That's because He was God in the form of a…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 05 2011,10:10)when you will be resurrected you then will be according to your view a MORPHED BEINGWhat about that, Gene?  Why do you think it's possible for God to “morph” humans into spiritual, heavenly beings, but impossible for Him to “morph” a spiritual, heavenly being into a human?  

Kerwin,You go farther off the deep end with every post you make to me.  Half of me just wants to walk away from this discussion because of the mazes and diversions you are attempting.  But the other half is stubborn, and will not let you walk away from points you've claimed just because you attempt to divert away from them.  It is that latter par…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 05 2011,09:30)MIke……….Then tell us where is a scripture that say Jesus was a MORPHED Angel or any other kind of Preexisting Being.How many would you like Gene?  Our pre-existent database thread has over 50 of them.But the god of this age has blinded your mind so you cannot see.Gene, did you Lord and Savior tell…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Sep. 05 2011,08:53)Gal 4:5 to redeem those who were under the law, that we might receive the adoption as sons.Kerwin, I think I'll start with this scripture Irene quoted. Jesus came to do WHAT? REDEEM us? From what?Think it out, brother.

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 05 2011,00:15)Mike,Your words do not align with the Word of God as you just denied the words of Jesus when he told his disciples that with man it is impossible to please God but with God all things are possible.Kerwin,Why not tell me which exact words I posted “do not align with the word of God”, and I'll show you the…[Read more]

Bumped to Paul's attention, since his sister Kathi is scared to comment on these scriptures because she KNOWS what they teach.

Bump for Kathi, invite for Paul:Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 06 2011,08:18)Jehovah is both God and Lord, Irene.Psalm 110:1 Jehovah says to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet.”Kathi, if Jesus is a part of "Jehovah", then who is the "Lord" to whom JEHOVAH said, "Sit at my right han…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Sep. 04 2011,12:21)These verses do not mean that Jesus is the Great I AM,The fact of the matter is that there exists no “Great I AM”. YHWH actually means “I SHALL PROVE TO BE WHAT I SHALL PROVE TO BE”. The NIV, knowing this, adds a footnote to their translation of Ex 3:14 saying: or “I will be what I will be”.The translation “I…[Read more]

So then your answer is “NO Mike, I CANNOT scripturally prove this last sentence to be incorrect.”  Thank you, Kathi.  All else you add to it is simply your own imagination and wishes.  The FACTS, as we KNOW them from scripture are:1.  The firstborn of any particular group does not have to come FROM a member of the group, ie:  David did not come…[Read more]

1 John 2:24See that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father.This is another scripture that shows the compound unity of the the disciples, Jesus and the Father.

John 17:26 I have made you known to them, and will continue to make you known in order that the love you have for me may be in them and that I myself may be in them.This scripture shows that Jesus' disciples are in a compound unity with Jesus.

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 03 2011,21:05)Mike,I just showed you.John 8:24 That is why I told you that you will die in your sins, for unless you believe that I AM, you will die in your sins.””I AM” needs to be on your list That is what you are asking for, one verse that shows His equality to God.KathiOkay, let's deal with this the same way I deal with…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 03 2011,23:32)Thanks Paul!  Glory to God, Paul's back Which ONE of your TWO Almighty Gods are you giving the glory to this time, Kathi?    I wonder if Paul realizes that you openly acknowledge your belief in and worship of TWO completely separate Almighty Gods, Kathi.I also wonder if, after learning about this, he will co…[Read more]

Jack,Jehovah is the Most High God. (Gen 14:22)  And Jesus is the SON OF the Most High God. (Mark 5:7)  Do you accept these scriptures as truth?

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 04 2011,06:48)Hi Mike,You have said in past posts that the title “King of kings” applies to ever the context is referring to, now you attempt to use it as an absolute to someone?Have you noticed how the translators of the “AKJV Bible”(74)CAPITALIZED both of these TITLES in Rev.19:16, but not in Rev.17:14? Rev.17:14 refers to…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 04 2011,06:47)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 02 2011,12:55)Ed, do you believe that the Lamb of God who was slain is God's Holy Spirit?Hi Mike,Not entirely: At Jesus birth he was 1/2 HolySpirit, and after his baptism he was filled with the HolySpirit. (See John 3:34)God blessEd JEd, how can the Holy Spirit be FILLED with the Holy…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 04 2011,06:46)Hi Mike,You keep forgetting I said that “The Word” of God is the “HolySpirit” of God.“The Words” that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. (John 6:63)“The Word” which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me. (John 14:24)God blessEd JThat just furthers MY point Ed.  If the Word is OF…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 04 2011,06:46)Hi Mike, The Bible also says that “The Word” of God makes everything as well…Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by The Word of God. (Heb 11:3)All things were made by him(The Word); (John 1:3)So using your logic (quoted in my post) it's pretty simple to see that “The Word” is God; right?God b…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 04 2011,06:45) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 01 2011,11:18)Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 31 2011,13:21)How is The Word’s glory seen in us?   …the same way The Word’s glory was seen in Jesus. (John1:14 / Rom.8:18)I'm sorry………………where exactly does it say it is the Word's glory in Romans 8:18?  mikeHi Mike,And we beheld his(The Word&#0…[Read more]