Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 14 2011,21:37)Joshua of Jericho had the Hebrew version of 'Jesus' but he was a type of the Jesus who actually was the Messiah.AND…………..?!?!?Kathi, find another way to prove Jesus is God, okay?  “Jesus” was a VERY COMMON name in the time of Christ, Kathi.  And one can't sensibly make the claim that since “Jehovah” i…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 14 2011,23:28)This word 'king' is translated as 'kings' in many versions.And what about the well educated scholars of the LXX and the many translations that render it as the singular “king”?  What was THEIR reasoning?  Let me know on the other verse I gave you ASAP.  You're going to have a harder time proving that Ph…[Read more]

Will do, Irene.

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 14 2011,21:11)Since you agreed that Jesus was something that appeared (according to what Hebrews 11:3 says),you do now understand Hebrews 11:3 disqualifies Jesus from being a candidate for "The Word", Yes or No?Ed, the DIRECT answer to your "YES or NO" question is "NO!"Hebrews 11:3NET © By faith we understand that the worlds…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 15 2011,01:13)I believe T8 was allowing you to choose to do what is right, the same way God allows us all to choose to do what is right.Perhaps.  But the more you speak of this, the more I kick myself in the butt for NOT doing what was right and deleting them the second time.  Instead, I did what was wrong to keep you happy, a…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Sep. 15 2011,00:08)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 15 2011,13:02)Ed, give me an example of ANY "YES or NO" question that cannot be answered with a "YES or NO".Ask me one right now.I was just reading a book.  I like this question you ask.I have a question (a yes or no question) that you must answer "yes" or "no" to and that I would like…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 14 2011,23:20)I am glad we agree though I seem to have trouble getting Mike or Irene to understand my point that the child of the body of an individual is the same species as the sire.Kerwin,In what way are the angels “sons of God”?

Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 15 2011,01:00)So no, Mike, I do not say “I have God's grace and my opponents don't.Good, Paladin. I didn't really think that's what you meant to say.Have you given any thought to my last post to you? Have you considered that the scriptures show “lowest parts of the earth” to just mean “earth”, and not “underneath the…

Quote (princess @ Sep. 15 2011,06:29)How does the triads or compound unity ones genderize the holy spirit as female or male?Hi Princess,We did have a poster named David who called himself “The Professor” a while back who insisted the Holy Spirit was a female.But I believe Trinitarians consider all three of their Gods to be male.  They often point…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 14 2011,22:29)I have a question ;if Satan has a kingdom (temporary) called the world , and it is the same world that becomes part of  the kingdom of God and his son ,how come ?how can that be ?Hey Pierre,The Kingdom of Israel was once Saul's Kingdom, but then that same land became David's Kingdom. And then Solomon's.…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 15 2011,15:36)but I see it this way ,if someone dies young he only be judged for that time he was herePierre,I also console myself with that exact thought anytime I hear of a person dying young – especially a child.I'm pretty sure that children who die young will be automatically judged favorably by Christ, because they've…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 15 2011,15:48)(1)GIVING THE RIGHT TO BECOME CHILDREN OF GOD(2)WE HAVE TO BE BORN AGAIN,THIS MEAN THAT OUR FIRST BIRTH DOES NOT GIVE US THAT RIGHT TO BECOME CHILDREN OF GODGood, scriptural answers Pierre.

You're welcome. How about addressing Is 54:5, now that you know about the “plural of majesty”? God is definitely a “majestic” Maker AND a “majestic” Ruler, right? Therefore the words can be plural to denote majesty instead of quantity. And the “husband” absolutely can be faithfully translated as “ruler”, right?So……………do we agree that…[Read more]

Yes Kathi,Here is one example:2 Chronicles 28:16 NIVAt that time King Ahaz sent to the king of Assyria for help. The word “king” is plural in Hebrew.  The LXX and many translations render it as a single “king” however, knowing it refers to Tilgath-pilneser. Here is one with “lord”:2 But Jehovah proved to be with Joseph, so that he turned out a su…[Read more]

Kathi,You are skirting the issue. Will any of your brothers or sisters at church stand beside you and boldly proclaim that they worship TWO completely separate Gods?

Okay, forget the “within” versus “among” for now. Do we all agree that the Kingdom of God is a viable thing? Do we agree that it will contain literal PLACES over which God reigns supreme? Will some people enter in to these places and live happy lives while others are forbidden to enter? Is the place where the sun is not needed a REAL place we…[Read more]

Ed, YES. Jesus APPEARED to his disciples many times in many places. See? The question was answered with a YES or NO, right? Give me a hard one.Oh, and btw, what is so hard about my question to you that you quoted? I listed word for word the scriptures that say all things are through the Word, God's Son, and our Lord Jesus Christ. The…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 14 2011,20:08)Gen 18 and 19 does not clarify any vice regents. One of the Son's roles was to be the Word of God and is called at times the Angel of God because of that. He is not one of the created angels though.So post Gen 18, and show me how it's impossible to have only ONE Jehovah because of this scripture. I'll show…[Read more]

I don't know what this last post is in reference to. But remember that Trinitarians worship only ONE God, and are very adamant about having only ONE God. (I agree it is semantics, and that they really have THREE Gods they confusingly meld into the one God)But my question was do you know anyone else who openly admits the worship of TWO separate…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 14 2011,19:57)Deleting posts that offer evidence against his assertions, claiming they are off topic, is unacceptable!Ed, Click Here to see where Keith did the same thing you did.  Look at the 9th post down, where I called him out on it.  He was IMPORTING discussions we were already having in other threads into this thread.  …[Read more]