Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 20 2011,19:25)It is untrue to state that Isaac was not the root of Abraham’s faith as it is written that Abraham was credited with righteousness because he believed that he would sire Isaac in accordance with God’s word.  So be careful what you write.Kerwin, read very carefully what I write here:  There is NO scripture that…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 19 2011,21:55)Hi Mike,I'm only interested in the words of someone that I can respond back to; but thanks for those postings for those who may be interested in 'those opinions'.So, to you it is only “opinion” when we are told by scholars of the Greek language that “pnuema” means “spirit”?  Get real, Ed.Btw, remember when I…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 19 2011,22:05)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 20 2011,11:04)Perhaps you could show me a scripture where the added “a” should have been left out of the KJV – since you apparently don't need their help?Hi Mike,Here is one: the indefinite article is NOT NEEDED between is and Spirit (but is “IS” needed)…God is Spirit: and they that…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 19 2011,21:34)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 20 2011,10:35)Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 19 2011,15:53)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 19 2011,14:04)Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 17 2011,22:40)Did Jesus ever say he was a god: yes or no?No.Hi Mike,Then why would you teach this is as doctrine?God blessEd JAre you for real, Ed?  Is your scriptural understanding…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 20 2011,00:20)My purpose for pointing out that Isaac is the root and offspring of Abraham was not a quote from scripture but was an example of how Jesus is the root of and offspring of David.Well, if it's not scriptural that Isaac was the root of Abraham, then why would you claim it as fact?  Isaac was the offspring of…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 19 2011,22:44)Mike,This should help:Imperfect TenseThe imperfect tense shows continuous or linear type of action just like the present tense. It always indicates an action continually or repeatedly happening in past time. It portrays the action as going on for some extended period of time in the past.The idea of continual…[Read more]

Nice post, Irene. You've summed it up very well.

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 20 2011,09:05)Do you see how Eph.4:4 says “ONE SPIRIT” not two? God blessEd JContext Ed.  Think it out.  If there is literally only ONE spirit, and Paul says the angels are all ministering spirits, then that would mean every angel IS God Himself.It would mean that the unclean spirit Jehovah sent upon King Saul was Jehovah H…[Read more]

Quote (thehappyman @ Sep. 20 2011,07:09)Our children can understand plainly that Jesus has a Father and He is His Son.That is a great point Happyman!  I once started a thread called “Like a child” that hit on this very point.  Young children understand that there is God, and then there is His Son.  They understand it until they are completely an…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 19 2011,23:55)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 19 2011,19:39)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 18 2011,22:35)Quote Who did Jesus claim to be?I AMActually, he claimed to be the SON OF “I AM”.Ok Mike,Show us what verse tells you this, ya know, where He said that He was the Son of I AM.Do you doubt that the One Jesus called his Father is the…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 19 2011,23:53)Irene,You missed the point. In the OT, Jehovah says that no one was with Him when He created, and then in the NT it clearly says that the Word WAS WITH GOD and that all was created through that Word that was WITH God. So, how can Jehovah be alone without anyone with Him and have someone with Him all at the…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 19 2011,23:45)Mike,The 'I AM' could not have been 'I have existed' because it is written in the present tense, not the past tense.Just like in 14:9 Kathi? Where virtually EVERY translator renders it as “I have been” so it actually makes sense in English?

Btw Ed,The KJV is not “scriptural proof” of anything. It was the result of the best guesses of MEN, nothing more. It is not “inspired” of God anymore than any other translation. You yourself can see just from comparing the old KJV to the NKJV just how many changes they've made to CORRECT things they had WRONG before.

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 19 2011,05:24)One group or view takes dominance and then is overcome by another group or view and while the pendulum of opinion swings wildly from side to side, the truth is that quiet part in the middle that the pendulum speeds past so fast it is missed. That part is called balance and if the pendulum could sit there, it would…[Read more]

I agree with t8 that “Angel” is the closest of the choices.  I would have voted for “Spirit Being” or “God's Only Begotten Son” if they were options.

And just to be fair, I'll import MY answer to Ed's post into this thread too.  That way someone won't get the wrong idea that I was just facetiously re-asking a question I knew had been answered. From the Incarnation thread: Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 19 2011,09:29)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 19 2011,03:26)Quote (<big>Ed J @ Sep. 17 2011,21:26,</big>)Quote…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 19 2011,11:06)The “Spirit” in Romans 8:11 is the HolySpirit and Him is JEHOVAH; do you agree, Yes or No?WHY Ed?!?!  Why on earth would I agree to “Holy Spirit AND Him” when the words are “Holy Spirit OF Him”?    So, NO!  I don't agree.Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 19 2011,11:06)Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things whi…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 19 2011,10:27)It's a fact that the words “rod of iron” does not appear in Revelation 17, sorry.You are right. I got twisted up. What is said in both 17 and 19 is “Lord of lords”, not “iron sceptor”. The “iron sceptor” ties Psalm 2:9, where God says that JESUS will rule with an iron sceptor to Rev 19, where the Word of God…[Read more]

Hey Irene,Don't tell anyone, but Kathi dealt her own doctrine the death blow the other night. You know how she says Jesus is “Jehovah the Son”, and he is the “Lord” part of Jehovah. And the Father is “Jehovah the Father” and the “God” part of Jehovah? Well………she herself posted this scripture to me last week:Matthew 11:25At that time Jesus…[Read more]