Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 02 2011,22:14)Mike this is a start ;GOSPEL: The Watchtower Society admits that their “gospel” is not the same gospel that has historically been preached by Christendom.“…compare…the gospel of the Kingdom done by the religious systems of Christendom during all the centuries with that done by Jehovah’s Witness…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 02 2011,20:05)Hi Mike! Since I have been so busy, I have not been on Heaven Net at all… So I will help out…Okie-dokie!

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Oct. 02 2011,17:15)You know nothing of Greek as I demonstrated in the “Freak Greek” thread.You mean the thread YOU started and then ran away from – leaving Keith and Kathi to fend for themselves?    Keith ended up running away also, and Kathi and I agreed that 1:1 speaks of TWO, DIFFERENT BEINGS.  But, I'll give you the sh…[Read more]

Okay, if we are now done with the GOSSIP portion of this thread, perhaps someone is finally ready to show me a scripture that the NWT “BLATANTLY CORRUPTED”? That is, after all, the title of the thread, right?

First of all, they don't think the 144,000 was made of of ONLY JWs, because they realize some of them have been accepted as part of the 144,000 long before the JW Organization even existed.Pierre, they believe they are speaking God's spiritual truth on all matters scriptural.  Just like all Christians believe when they talk to non-Christians.…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 02 2011,18:11)Mike…………So where is this flaming Sword  at now Mike  surely it exists where we can surely see it right, according to you please tell where it is then; Well Gene, when you find the Garden of Eden, you'll find the sword.  Do you think because we don't know the location of the Garden that it didn't ex…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 02 2011,17:51)and He then introduces the Book of Enoch a very questionable book i might addQuestionable to WHO, Gene? Inspired writers of the scriptures quoted from it, and it was considered to be scripture to those who lived in Jesus' lifetime.There are many things written in Enoch that Jesus later said himself – even…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Oct. 02 2011,16:24) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 03 2011,04:46)Quote (shimmer @ Oct. 01 2011,18:07)Mike I see, you haven't changed have you?Why would I?I was actually refering to the way you were speaking to Gene, Mike.Oh.  In that case, I see YOU haven't changed either.  You are still passing judgment upon those you perceive as j…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 01 2011,17:43)when you can not trust the leaders and there literature what is there to trust GOD but then what is someone doing in that organization ???I do not sit with liars,So now they are not flawed men like us who have made mistakes? They are instead “LIARS”? Hmmmmm………That doesn't sound like something the…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 01 2011,12:50)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 02 2011,05:23)Okay Ed, CONFIRM FOR ME THAT IT IS THE JW OFFICIAL STANCE THAT ONLY JWs WILL GAIN EVERLASTING LIFE.mikeHi Mike,Why are you changing the words? I asked David, our JW member…“Is it not true that your organization teaches that non-members are non-Christians?”This is what the…[Read more]

Shimmer,From the Book of Enoch, Chapter 15:3 You being spiritual, holy, and possessing a life which is eternal, have polluted yourselves with women; have begotten in carnal blood; have lusted in the blood of men; and have done as those who are flesh and blood do.6But you from the beginning were made spiritual, possessing a life which is eternal,…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 01 2011,11:13)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 02 2011,03:47)If the Spirit here IS God Himself, then who is it that is TELLING God what to speak?Hi Mike,What does this mean?God blessEd JThe Spirit only speaks what he is told to speak. Told by WHO? In your imagination, the Spirit OF God actually IS God Himself. So WHO is it that is…[Read more]

Hey Ed,I've discovered more evidence:Revelation 2:18“To the angel of the church in Thyatira write: These are the words of the Son of God, whose eyes are like blazing fire and whose feet are like burnished bronze.Revelation 19:12His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he h…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 02 2011,10:09)Now Mike do you think that he who makes his ministers a flame of fire actually makes them a literial flame of fire, and why not  becasue you believe God actually makes a Angel a Spirit “BEING”,Yes I do think that, Gene.  Why wouldn't I?    After all, that IS what the scripture says, right?From the Book of…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Oct. 01 2011,18:07)Mike I see, you haven't changed have you?Why would I?  I only adjust my understanding when someone like you shows it to be scripturally flawed.  You have not done that on this subject. I hope all is well with you,mike

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 02 2011,08:51)Mike……..So say you that it is a Metaphor but i say GOD the FATHER was Truly (IN) Jesus By the His SPIRIT which gave him the WORDS (reema) to speak to us…………You've got it right, Gene.  God WAS in Jesus THROUGH HIS HOLY SPIRIT.  Just like God can be in us the same way.  It does not mean that th…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 02 2011,07:51)Ecclesiastes 11:5 is part of the teaching that covers verses 1-16 and is about the lack of foreknowledge of God’s works and instructs us not to worry or boast about tomorrow for that which happens is the works of God of and remains a mystery until and if he chooses to inform us.Very good, Kerwin.  Now, since yo…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ Oct. 02 2011,03:47)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 24 2011,15:02)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 23 2011,00:57)I am stating that an explicitly expressed idea is more convincing than a argument based on personally perceived implications.I agree.  Especially when those “personally perceived implications” result in absurd statements and…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Oct. 01 2011,16:51)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 02 2011,04:53)Gene,You need to research John 1:1 a little more.  The Word is never called “THE God” in that verse.  And “THE God” is the only one we call “God”, with a capped “G”.All others are called “gods” in English, with a lower case “g”.And since the Word was WITH “THE God” i…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ Oct. 01 2011,16:27)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 02 2011,04:53)Gene,You need to research John 1:1 a little more.  The Word is never called “THE God” in that verse.  And “THE God” is the only one we call “God”, with a capped “G”.All others are called “gods” in English, with a lower case “g”.And since the Word was WITH “THE God” in the b…[Read more]