Quote (carmel @ Oct. 05 2011,14:43)There are some things God did not intend for man to know. Not just us, but also His own flesh!Therefore, this applies also to your poor conclusion, when you stated : I get the feeling that Jesus doesn't even know who the Father has prepared these places for:So to me ,I am afraid you are completely ignoring the…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Oct. 05 2011,14:01)You are limiting God, and conclude that since it is as you say regarding our worldly wisdom,and carnal reasoning, it is also the same with God, and with every respect ,that is pride in you, Mike.Charles, God Himself is the One who said he “begot a Son”.  Surely God would have known how we as humans would…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 05 2011,05:57)Hey Mike,You said-”  Why is Jesus the only one you want to elevate to the status of the God who set him above his companions and anointed him with the oil of joy?”Because he is the only human man that was composed literally from God. His dad was literally God.But can't you read your own words, Mark?  HIS DAD i…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 05 2011,14:03)Kerwin and Gene,You are certainly welcome Gene, I have been using that site for over a year now and it truly has a lot to offer.  Look on the 'parallel' tab and see many translations of the verse, then go to the bottom of that page and see the various commentary on that verse.  I especially like John Gill s…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 04 2011,21:48)Quote Irene, does Jesus ever say “NO ONE has ever heard God” anywhere in scripture?  YES or NO?  Does ANYBODY ever say those words anywhere in scripture?  YES or NO?Mike!  Yes, inJhn 6:46   Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.  Peace and Love IreneIrene,I said…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 04 2011,23:16)Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 04 2011,23:12)Paladin,Is the use of Aion in Hebrews 1:2 singular or plural in Hebrews 1:2.Mike believes it is singular.I would like to know how to tell the difference and what source on the internet my aid me in learning.Thank you.Hi Kerwin,I can help you with this.  The word is plural in…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 01 2011,10:38)I said God sent “OF” himself.Luke 1111 “Which of you fathers, if your son asks for a fish, will give him a snake instead? 12 Or if he asks for an egg, will give him a scorpion? 13 If you then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give the Holy S…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 03 2011,09:06)ED J……………….Bottom line is they simply do not know what Spirit actually IS> It is not a “BEING” it is what is (IN) BEINGS.Actually Gene,It is YOU who mistakenly believes that all mentions of “spirit” in the scriptures have the same meaning.When YOU correct your mistake, then we can talk again.…[Read more]

Hey Ed,Why do you think that both Jesus and the Holy spirit:1. Will do battle against the same beast and the same kings of the earth that support the beast?2. Both have eyes of blazing fire?3. Both are said to someday rule with an iron sceptor?

Quote (Paladin @ Oct. 04 2011,03:27)Do you really think John is not familiar with the concept of “calling” something by a name? John does not say “and the word was called God, does he Mike? He says “the word was God.Do YOU think that John was unaware that he only spoke of one “THE god” in 1:1?  Only ONE of the TWO mentioned is called by John “THE…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 04 2011,05:43)Jhn 5:37   And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.We believe Jesus or not….it is up to the individual member here…. there are several Scriptures like this one…Irene,Can you understand the DIFFERENCE between Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 04 2011,12:18)You asked, and I produced.No Ed, you have not produced one ounce of evidence.  Nor did the post Pierre made suggest that the JWs are the only ones to gain salvation.Ed, I've grown tired of you for now.  Even Pierre, who is one your side here, told you that “taking in knowledge of” means basically the same things a…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 04 2011,12:11)I gave you two corresponding points.1. Respective. (meaning: differentiating two groups; JW's and all others)2. Everlasting life is taking in knowledge of him. (only by faithful descrete slaves)And both of them are translated faithfully by the NWT. So you have yet to show your first “BLATANTLY CORRUPTED” scripture…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 04 2011,09:17)Mike……………NO ….I do not agree there are many meanings of the word Spirit, that is Your confusion Not Mine.Then you are simply wrong, Gene. Go to any concordance or dictionary of scriptural words to see how wrong you are. Try Strong. Try NETNotes. Try Biblos.com.Until you understand the FACT…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Oct. 04 2011,10:06)I love confrontations with the aim of discover the truth about God.Hi Charles,I'm trying to do just that.  But you are not going to come to any scriptural truth by just posting 100 scriptures at a time and believing they all prove Jesus is God.The whole idea of this thread was to break down your big list of…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 04 2011,17:45)He is not God the Father on earth, yes, but no one can say he is not Lord, KING, ruler, or JudgeAnd your point is……………….?Jesus' GOD is the One who set him as King on Zion. Jesus' GOD is the One who made him both Lord and Christ. Jesus rules IN THE POWER and NAME of his own God, Jehovah. And his…[Read more]

Quote (vjesnik @ Oct. 04 2011,17:35)who God the Father says Jesus was/is? Once we have the answer to this question it would be wise to conclude that all interpretations/doctrines that doesn’t fit Fathers words are false.Brilliant, V. I started a thread titled “John 8:25” for a similar purpose.  In 8:24, Jesus says that if we don't believe he is wh…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 04 2011,05:20)Jesus was of God.That's right Mark.  Do you know what that little word “OF” means?  If someone is OF GOD, then that someone cannot possbily BE God.Son OF God = NOT God HimselfProphet OF God = NOT God HimselfPriest OF God = NOT God HimselfServant OF God = NOT God HimselfSacrificial Lamb OF God = NOT God H…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Oct. 04 2011,00:33)Therefore Jesus is God Himself in Flesh.Then who is the only begotten Son OF God?  Jesus can either be God Most High, or he can be the Son OF God Most High – he cannot possibly be BOTH of these things. Which one does the scriptures say he is? (Mark 5:7)Peace and love in Jesus Christ AND his God,mike

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 03 2011,08:05)Mike……….So much talk but not one answer Back to square one did Jesus say he was (NOT) a SPIRIT but a flesh and bone (BEING) after His resurrection , a simple Yes or Know will suffice.YES Gene,Jesus DID say he was NOT a spirit after the resurrection………….WHILE HE WAS STILL ON EARTH.Now, how…[Read more]