Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 10 2011,08:53)It was my belief that the relationship is clear as God being the creator has created what was, what is, and what will be.Very good, Kerwin. I believe we are in agreement once again. So, if “Maker of ALL THINGS” in Eccl 11:5 really MEANS “ALL things” – even though the act of creation is not the “internally…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 10 2011,15:18)so scriptures say God has a FORM OR SHAPE THAT NO ONE CAN SEE ;AT THE LEAST HUMANS CAN NOTVery good, Pierre. God said that no man could see His face and live. That would have been a stupid thing for God to say if He didn't even HAVE a face to begin with.It is the same with your scriptures. One can't say…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 10 2011,07:53)Mike……….That was what the apostles assumed a spirit of Ghost was , Jesus was not saying there exist SPIRIT “BEINGS” or GHOST “BEINGS”  as you falsely again assume.Gene, You missed MY point.  In order for Jesus to say, “There exists no such thing as a ghost”, the word “ghost” has to MEAN “ghost” in t…[Read more]

Oops, I just noticed you put “called messianic” in your post. Is it “Messianic Jews” or something? I'd like to research their beliefs.

Quote (Raziel @ Oct. 10 2011,18:33)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 11 2011,10:37)Quote (Raziel @ Oct. 10 2011,15:46)It just hit me isn't Christianity judasim without christ?Christianity is Judaism WITH Christ – in a nut shell.  The Jews still await the Messiah's coming.Most any way  there is a branch called messianic that believe in Christ.That is i…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 10 2011,15:37)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 10 2011,12:16)Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 09 2011,19:05)Both sheperds came into being instantly,  One is just a part of the whole of the other.. They are one.So the Being of God Almighty sent “PART of Himself” to be a shepherd?  And then that “PART of Himself” prayed to and glorified and p…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Oct. 10 2011,14:12)Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.How all Christians believe that within themselves with the power of the Holy Spirit abide the Father and the Son as whole God not as a fraction of God??I…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Oct. 10 2011,12:26)As devine He was one with the Father from eternity to eternity in every sense and power.Hi Charles,Can you show me a scripture that says Christ has always existed? Because I can show you plenty that speak of his beginning.

Quote (Raziel @ Oct. 10 2011,15:46)It just hit me isn't Christianity judasim without christ?Christianity is Judaism WITH Christ – in a nut shell. The Jews still await the Messiah's coming.

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 10 2011,09:27)Jn 17:6 “I have revealed you to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word. Jn 17:7 Now they know that everything you have given me comes from youLook what Jesus says Mark is this not confirm Eze 34;11 ??Those are the scriptures my mind went t…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 10 2011,05:28)Ezekiel 34:11 “'For this is what the Sovereign LORD says: I MYSELF will search for my sheep and look after them.How in the world can Jesus not be the Shepherd? Once again, David was ALSO called a shepherd of Israel.  Is HE also God?You forget that Jehovah looked after HIS OWN sheep by SENDING a shepherd.…[Read more]

Okay Mark,Then start DEFENDING:Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 10 2011,05:17)You Ignore John 1:1 and do not realize that Jesus was with God in the beginning, I absolutely DO believe that Jesus, (someone who is NOT God) was WITH God in the beginning.  God cannot be WITH God, Mark.  So for Jesus to have been WITH God in the beginning, he absolutely HAS TO B…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 09 2011,19:44)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 10 2011,07:02)Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 09 2011,16:22)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 09 2011,20:30)Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 08 2011,21:58)Interesting as it is perfect tense to the aorist tense of the first usage.And since, as you pointed out, “Aorist verbs can be speaking of when the action started,…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 09 2011,19:41)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 09 2011,22:15)Kerwin,I await your response about the phrase “Maker of ALL things” in Eccl 11:5.  Does it refer to God only making CERTAIN things just because the “internally consistent teaching” of the chapter is not about the “act of creation”?Mike,I already answered this question with…[Read more]

How does Paul pray with BOTH his spirit AND his mind? If his spirit represents his (INTELLECT), then what does his mind represent?

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 09 2011,11:22)MIke…………..It absolutely does mean the (INTELLECT) (IN) a Person without a doubt.Wrong. Because YOUR OWN WORDS just said Jesus was trying to explain he wasn't a “spirit being or ghost”. And for that to be what Jesus was explaining, that particular word “spirit” had to MEAN “spirit being or ghost”…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 09 2011,19:05)Both sheperds came into being instantly,  One is just a part of the whole of the other.. They are one.So the Being of God Almighty sent “PART of Himself” to be a shepherd? And then that “PART of Himself” prayed to and glorified and praised the “OTHER PART” of himself? And then that “PART of Himself” died…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 09 2011,19:02)ONLY JESUS WAS BORN THROUGH GOD.That's right, Mark. Jesus (ONE being) was born (had a beginning) through God (A DIFFERENT Being who had no beginnning).Mark, I have been SOLIDLY refuting each and every “Jesus is God” claim you've made so far. Will you ever stand and defend your doctrine against my rebuttals?…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 09 2011,16:22)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 09 2011,20:30)Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 08 2011,21:58)Interesting as it is perfect tense to the aorist tense of the first usage.And since, as you pointed out, “Aorist verbs can be speaking of when the action started, ended, or its totality”, the fact that the second mention is in the perfect…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ Oct. 09 2011,16:54)Mike, please give me one translation that says “And the word was god.” Notice, I do not say there is not one, I only say I am not aware of one.Are you?1808  “and the word was a god”       The New Testament, in An Improved Version, Upon the Basis of Archbishop Newcome’s New Translation: With a Corrected Text, Lon…[Read more]