Quote (carmel @ Oct. 28 2011,09:32)Mike,Quote Now, do YOU have at least ONE scripture that clearly tells us Jesus WAS from everlasting before I move on to my SECOND scripture? What would you say about this:KJV.Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be…[Read more]

I agree that neither Jehovah nor John had the intention of claiming Jesus was “God Almighty”.But do you deny that Jesus was A god? (Mighty one/One whom should be revered)It seems that you think Jehovah referred to the false teachings of the Trinitarians in Is 9:6. But why would he lump a false title Jesus would be given in with the totally…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 28 2011,11:04)PIERRE,Perhaps you did not understand Mike's question either?Which is: of the 26 times God's name is mentionedin the possessive form, how many of those timesis God referring to the HolySpirit; zero times!This evidence supports my beliefs, right?God blessEd JYes Ed, it does………….unfortunately for me in this…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Oct. 28 2011,14:37)One more point:  Shaul, writing to the Hebrews makes it clear that “…he had to be made like his brothers (1) in every way, in order that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in service to Yahweh, and that he might make atonement for the sins of the people.”  Hebrews 2:17.  Yahshua was a ma…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 28 2011,04:41)Hi Mike,I too believe this is what it takes to reach people that are stuck in their dogmas.God blessEd JI agree Ed……………I think. Btw Frank, I fogot to answer one part of your question:I have been a member of HN for about 2 and a half years.

Quote (t8 @ Oct. 27 2011,20:07)Quote (t8 @ Oct. 28 2011,13:00)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 28 2011,10:35)I figure he'll be back to teach the “dozen teachers”.aka the 12 disciples.I wana be John OK.As long as I get to be Peter! I'M THE ROCK! I'M THE ROCK!

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Oct. 27 2011,19:49)Mike,Look at Isaiah 9:6 the following translation:he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.How do you conclude that Father Yahweh called him this…………..Okay Frank, I stand corrected.  But it was the Father who foretold that Jesus WOULD BE called “god”,…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Oct. 27 2011,19:38)I do not believe that when I came back here that I said that I specifically wanted to discuss anything with you did ! ? No Frank, you didn't. But on the same note, I don't believe I asked your permission to comment on the unscriptural things you post, did I?

Shimmer,Are angels spirits or not?

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Oct. 27 2011,18:44)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 28 2011,11:12)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Oct. 27 2011,17:54)I have noted that many here believe that Yahshua pre-existed his birth as an actual being and refer to him and our Father Yahweh by the word 'god'. I myself do not follow in this line of thinking.If Jehovah Himself called Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Oct. 27 2011,18:40)Did you ever note that Yahchanan (John), which you have quoted (MAYBE?) is the only one who uses such wording as to what Yahshua said or has been translated or conveyed as using such wording? So, actually you are not quoting what Yahshua actually said, but Yahchanan's account or record (MAYBE?) of what…[Read more]

Bump for KathiQuote (Lightenup @ Sep. 28 2011,20:48)Jehovah our God is the unity of the God of gods (Jehovah,the Father) and the Lord of lords (Jehovah,the Son). Deut 10:17Kathi, The above is your signature. You have stated that Deut 10:17 refers to TWO Gods – the God of gods and the Lord of lords. You have stated that TOGETHER, THEY make up…[Read more]

Hey Mark,Did you let your cousin Raziel know the server was back on line?

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Oct. 27 2011,17:54)I have noted that many here believe that Yahshua pre-existed his birth as an actual being and refer to him and our Father Yahweh by the word 'god'. I myself do not follow in this line of thinking.If Jehovah Himself called Jesus a god in Is 9:6, then why would you not “follow this line of thinking”?Don't get…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 26 2011,20:08)For, say the oracles, “This same Jesus, who is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come, in like manner as ye have seen Him go unto heaven.”  Acts i. 11.I believe Ignatius makes the same mistake concerning Acts 1:11 as many people do.  He mistakenly assumes that the words “will come back in the same way y…[Read more]

Hi Irene,Then you understand that “I have been” is not a “mistranslation” on the NWT's part, but actually conveys the true meaning of Jesus' statement?

You are the one who counted 26 times that the POSSESSIVE word “God's” was used in the KJV, right?  How many of those times was it to refer to “God's Holy Spirit”?

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Oct. 26 2011,20:23)I noted that there were a few here that believe as I do, that the Messiah did not pre-exist his birth as an actual being, but only in the sense that he pre-existed in his and our Father's future plan.Hi Frank,When Jesus said “I came down from heaven” in John 6, remember that he didn't say, “THE PLAN OF ME…[Read more]

He kind of makes me miss Istari!   My guess is that he got locked out during the server switch like a lot of us.  I figure he'll be back to teach the “dozen teachers”.  I do hope that in between posting manifestos of his own beliefs, he will also address those of us who have responded to his points.

Jack,My heart and prayers go out in behalf of you and your family.  My sister hung herself 3 years ago.  In fact, it was at her funeral gathering that I made the decision to trade my life of drugs and alcohol for a life devoted to learning more about God and what the future holds.Silver lining?  Perhaps.  But I still miss her and wish she cou…[Read more]