Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 29 2011,07:59)Now, back to our first three words, when was “in the beginning”. When did the idea of Jesus being only a man begin? With the Jehovahs witnesses or wwcog? Tell me, that is an honest question. When did all this division start? Was the whole world decieved all through the 19 or 20 centurys untill somone decided…[Read more]

Hi Mark,Matthew 11:9Then what did you go out to see? A prophet? Yes, I tell you, and more than a prophet. Matthew 13:57And they took offense at him. But Jesus said to them, “Only in his hometown and in his own house is a prophet without honor.”Matthew 14:5Herod wanted to kill John, but he was afraid of the people, because they considered him a pro…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Oct. 29 2011,10:46)The Father is well pleased that ALL FULLNESS DWELL IN HIM,Correct.  The Father, (who IS God Almighty), was pleased to have so much of Him dwell in the Son He begot.  Once again, you've shown scriptural words that distinguish the Son as someone OTHER THAN and LESSOR TO his own God, the Father.Quote (carmel @ O…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 29 2011,07:50)Like your assertion of the addition of an “a” in “the word was God”, even though ALL other translations do not have it.Mark, I know this is a long post.  But I worked hard on it and I hope you will read every word of it.First of all, it is not my addition of the word “a” that raises questions, Mark.  It is t…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 29 2011,07:28)“Everlasting Father”Why in the world would he be called this? Remember it says FATHER. Why Mike?2 Kings 13:14 When Elisha became sick with the illness of which he was to die, Joash the king of Israel came down to him and wept over him and said, “My father, my father, the chariots of Israel and its h…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 29 2011,07:27)Mikeboll,You have not shown where it does not mean that Jesus wasn't with God from the very beginning…………….More to the point, YOU have not shown any scripture that says Jesus WAS from eternity.  How can you just make a claim like that based solely on your wishes, Mark?As for me, I'm just getting…[Read more]

Are you stumped Ed? You must be. Because just when I was thinking that your claim about Hebrew and Greek not having a word for “of” was as lame as you could get, you proved me wrong.Yes Ed, Romans 8:16 does speak of one of God's possessions bearing witness with one of our possessions that we are children of God. And yes, “children OF God”…[Read more]

Shimmer,What does any of that have to do with spirits having bodies?

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 28 2011,01:08)To interpret your words, my studies make you uncomfortable because they challenge your current worldview as I am certainly linking the words in Colossians 1:17 to the fact that those that believe are unified with the Spirit of adoption, by being in him.  Not at all.  My point is that you think because Jesus is s…[Read more]

And so we have come full circle once again.  Right back to the same assinine claim I've addressed over and over before.Ed, was there perhaps a certain form of the Hebrew and Greek words that would convey the meaning of the English word “of”? Was there a way they showed possession?And if so, then would you agree that the KJV renders “Spirit OF…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 27 2011,23:01)hi Kathiwould that mean that the son of God the father is also the father ??Come on Pierre, get with the program. The Son of the Father is obviously not the Father he is the Son of – that would make no sense.But it makes “perfect sense” that the Son of GOD would be GOD he is the Son of!

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 27 2011,22:08)………..but in Rev 4:11, I agree with John Gill who says the 'our Lord and God' here refers to God the Father.Well, thank goodness John Gill agrees with the scriptures on this one!    All I needed to do is continue reading into chapter 5 to know 4:11 referred to the Father and God of Jesus.So, what do you t…[Read more]

Look at you go, Ed! Run, “Numbers”, run!

That sounds like 26 reasons for you to understand that the Spirit OF God is a POSSESSION of God.

Gene knows angels have bodies, but won't accept that angels are spirits -even though the scriptures say so.You acknowledge that angels are spirits, but won't accept the many scriptures that clearly describe their bodies. Now if I could just add your brain to Gene's brain, we'd have two more people who believe spirits have bodies. But to each his…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Oct. 28 2011,22:15)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 29 2011,12:27)Quote (t8 @ Oct. 27 2011,20:07)Quote (t8 @ Oct. 28 2011,13:00)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 28 2011,10:35)I figure he'll be back to teach the “dozen teachers”.aka the 12 disciples.I wana be John OK.As long as I get to be Peter!   I'M THE ROCK!  I'M THE ROCK!      OK, no prob…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Oct. 28 2011,20:41)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 29 2011,13:00)I agree that neither Jehovah nor John had the intention of claiming Jesus was “God Almighty”.But do you deny that Jesus was A god? (Mighty one/One whom should be revered)It seems that you think Jehovah referred to the false teachings of the Trinitarians in Is 9:6.…[Read more]

Boy, that is a lot of questions for one post.Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Oct. 28 2011,20:24)Since you believe that Yahshua pre-existed his birth, what is it that you believe he pre-existed as, a “god”, “an angel” or what? An angel of God.  In fact, the FIRST angel of God.  (Remember that in Biblical times, angels were also referred to as gods.)Quote (…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 28 2011,06:01)Hi Mark,What about this one…Micah 5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.Ed,Time for you to move into the 21st century and get a…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 28 2011,05:32)Alpha & Omega First & Last  “Behold, He comes with the clouds, and every eye will see Him, and those who pierced Him will see Him, and all the kindreds of the earth will wail because of Him. Even so, Amen. I am the Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the Ending, says the Lord, who is and who was and who is to…[Read more]