Charles,MY aim is to show you SCRIPTURALLY that Jesus is NOT the God he is the Son of. Nothing more.

Kathi,Do a word search for “I am the LORD”. You'll see that whenever Jehovah claimed to BE Jehovah, the Hebrew word “aniy”, or “I am”, preceeded “YHWH”. Ie: “I am I AM”.I don't know about the tense, but I know that the over 100 Trinitarian scholars that produced the NIV add a footnote saying “or I WILL BE WHAT I WILL BE”.And I know that many…[Read more]

Hi Frank,Thank you for your answer.Proverbs 30:4 NIV4 Who has gone up to heaven and come down? Whose hands have gathered up the wind?Who has wrapped up the waters in a cloak? Who has established all the ends of the earth?What is his name, and what is the name of his son? Surely you know!Frank, who do you suppose the son is in this proverb?

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 16 2011,00:24)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 14 2011,02:38)Also, WHOSE angels will do obeisance to him?  HIS OWN angels?  Or “GOD'S angels”?Hi Mike, who's Angels are these?The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; (Matthew 13:41)Also God's a…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 16 2011,00:41)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 15 2011,11:48)The words “when God AGAIN brings His firstborn into the world” implies that God has already BROUGHT His firstborn into the world at least once before.    Hi Mike,Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God w…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 16 2011,00:05)Quote Nor does one “subject himself” to his equal.I disagree with this assumption of yours, Mike.Don't confuse “minister to” with “subject yourself to”. Ed, I did not become your subject, as if you are my King now, right? I might have let you win, but that is not the same thing as we're discussing here, is it?You…[Read more]

Gene, would you show us?Can you post the evidence of your claims?  Can you show us all where Frank or Paladin answered a question I asked, but then I asked them to answer that same question again?Can you show the post where I “started it” with Frank?

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 16 2011,10:26)I will stick with what Jesus said , ” A SPIRIT DOES NOT HAVE (A) BODY”No wonder your understanding of scripture is so flawed, Gene. You keep sticking with the things YOU IMAGINE that Jesus said. Jesus never said “A SPIRIT DOES NOT HAVE A BODY”. Ever.

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 16 2011,12:00)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 16 2011,04:59)Kerwin: “spirit is a synonym of spirit”I think you meant to say, “spirit is a synonym of phantasm”.Good point, btw.  I'm anxious to see if Gene will now be able to grasp the truth of the matter that “spirit” has many different meanings in scripture.Mike,'Thank you for…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 16 2011,12:01)The topic is not whether or not phantasms exist.  The topic is whether the word Greek word “spirit” has only one meaning or if it has more than one meaning.That's right Gene.  So please answer my post:Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 15 2011,09:19)MIke………..I never said they thought thy saw a Intellect  insi…[Read more]

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Pierre,

Just be honest Frank.  That's all I'm asking.  Don't tell the good people here that you've answered questions when you really haven't, okay?  Proverbs 8:22-31 NIV22 “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works,  before his deeds of old;23 I was formed long ages ago,  at the very beginning, when the world came to be.24 When there were n…[Read more]

It should be easy to use the OT to prove that our One God and Heavenly Father created all things.  But some members of HN like to nonsensically claim that “Jehovah” consists of both Father AND Son, thereby claiming that any OT scripture about creation speaks of BOTH of them creating.  So here's a small list of scriptures that distinguish Jesus a…[Read more]

Jesus also calls his God the “Lord of heaven and earth”. (Matthew 11:25) I think that comment places Jesus under the one he calls the “Lord of heaven and earth”, and therefore makes the One Jesus calls “my God” also his Lord.

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 16 2011,16:16)Mike,Just to make it clear, I do not believe that Kathi believes that “Jesus is God Almighty”, but I could be wrong……..You are.  I've been discussing scripture with Kathi for two and a half years here.  She believes that we have two Almighty Gods who form the one “plural unity Godhead” of Jehovah.She d…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 16 2011,15:46)Mike,Again, I do not wish to enter into a debate with you and your foolish questions!Frank, Phil 2 says Jesus was existing in the form of God, and then emptied himself and took on the form of a servant.I asked you what Jesus emptied himself OF. You said he emptied himself of pride.So I asked you when Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 16 2011,00:06)We both have a supernatural being that pre-existed and was with the Father so why is the Father telling that person that He is Jehovah???  Hmmm???  Either way, that pre-existent person would already know that, wouldn't He?So what's the answer, Kathi?  Because in Is 42, Jehovah is clearly telling His messiah th…[Read more]

Did Paul lie when he called Satan a god?  Did he lie when he said there are many gods in heaven and on earth?  Did Jehovah lie when He called Satan a god?  Did Jesus lie when he said our God was also his God?  Did he lie when he repeatedly called Jehovah “my God”?Kathi, you have spoken only half a truth here.  You are aware of how the words “elo…[Read more]

Quote (princess @ Nov. 07 2011,17:13)Prince,Strange you should call me a Christian, for I am not one. I have practiced and studied many religions and I am the furthest from being a Christian.Well that's sad news to me. Is Shimmer aware of this, Princess?