Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 21 2011,09:00)T8………..No one disputes that, Jesus had his “Origins” from the Father so do we, It was God's Plan to For Jesus from the beginning of creation, remember, from the seed of the woman would come one the would bruise the serpents head Notice he said FROM THE (SEED) OF THE WOMEN HE WOULD COME question T8…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 21 2011,15:28)John 1:14The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.If the Word is God himself, then then the Father became flesh. But God is not a man.And it was after all, Jesus who existed in the form of God who…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 21 2011,08:43)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 20 2011,01:50)Okay Frank,If Jesus was the spokesman of God in these last days, and that means the Word of God was manifest through Jesus, then it also means that same Word of God was manifest through those who were God's spokesman in the former days, right?So then Isaiah, David, Moses, and…[Read more]

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Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 06 2011,18:25)Speaking of WJ…………..where exactly has ol' Keith been hiding lately?  I haven't heard from him in over two weeks.  And speaking of Rebellman, just where did he run off to?  He must be one of those I chased off, according to our resident heavyweight champion of the world.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 06 2011,18:25)Speaking of WJ…………..where exactly has ol' Keith been hiding lately?  I haven't heard from him in over two weeks.  And speaking of Rebellman, just where did he run off to?  He must be one of those I chased off, according to our resident heavyweight champion of the world.

Quote (carmel @ Nov. 20 2011,09:19)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 18 2011,08:41)Charles, does it make sense that the God MOST HIGH would have a God of His own?  YES or NO?Mike ,Does these make sense : IF YES, DEFINEGenesis 1:5……..And the evening and the morning were the first day. Charles,Is your answer to show me other scriptures that YOU think don&…[Read more]

Bravo, Ed! As did the names of everyone in the scriptures. I can't think of any scriptural character that we say his name in English the same way it was said in Hebrew or Greek.Charles, can you?

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 20 2011,13:09)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 21 2011,03:20)Gene,If you agree that the one called “the Word of God” in Rev is Jesus, then I'm halfway home to showing you John 1:1.Whose Word do you think is mentioned in John 1:1, Gene?  It says, “In the beginning was the Word”, right?  WHOSE Word?Was it the Word of Satan?  …[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 20 2011,13:34)This would be a good start, and i might reconsider my point of view. Fat chance of that ever happening! Gene, your OWN words proved that “spirit” has more than one meaning in scripture, and you still won't acknowledge it.Luke used the word “spirit”, YOU said that the word did NOT mean the…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 20 2011,14:09)Psa 90:2…..> Before the mountains were brought forth, or even you have formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting you are GOD Whats to address that is a simple straight forward scripture Moses was speak to GOD , what is your prob;em with it. How does that make anyone a…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 20 2011,12:53)Not that any man (including Jesus) has seen the Father (why because he is Spirit), now notice carefully Mike, save he which is (of GOD), another word HIS SPIRIT (INTELLECT) he (HAS) SEEN THE FATHER: Gene, Are you saying that Jesus' “higher spirit intellect” was able to see God when no one else could?

Gene,If you agree that the one called “the Word of God” in Rev is Jesus, then I'm halfway home to showing you John 1:1.Whose Word do you think is mentioned in John 1:1, Gene? It says, “In the beginning was the Word”, right? WHOSE Word?Was it the Word of Satan? The Word of Michael? The Word of Gabriel? Or the Word of God?WHOSE Word is…[Read more]

Gene, the Jews to whom Jesus said, “I came down from heaven” were able to understand that Jesus was claiming he came down from heaven.  They didn't understand why this man who they knew was from Nazareth would say such a thing, but they sure understood that he was saying it.Gene, Jesus also said in that same teaching that no one has seen the…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 20 2011,09:40)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 19 2011,21:30)Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 18 2011,00:33)Mike,Am I correct that you do believe that Jesus did have a flesh and bone body when he stated those words?Yes Kerwin.This is one of my beliefs I had to adjust since coming to HN.  I used to think Jesus was raised from the dead as a spirit…[Read more]

Hey Kerwin,I obtained my info from the JWs:There are thousands of copies of the Christian Greek Scriptures in existence today, but most of them were made during or after the fourth century of our Common Era. This suggests a possibility: Did something happen to the text of the Christian Greek Scriptures before the fourth century that resulted in…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 18 2011,16:55)Following is an excerpt from Voy Wilks' study entitled: “YAHSHUA: DID HE PRE-EXIST? that I have on my web page at: http://frank4yahweh.tripod.com/ByAndThrough.html . If you are truly interested in what it is that we believe on this matter of Yahshua pre-existing his birth, I would suggest that you please go…[Read more]

Gene,I see you have STILL not addressed Ps 90:2. It is for THAT reason I call you a coward. So why not prove me wrong by addressing my point?Or, you could prove me right by refusing to address it like you have been.The choice is yours, of course. But until you make the first choice, you'll continue to be a coward in my eyes – no matter how many…[Read more]