Quote (jammin @ Dec. 29 2011,19:42)YOU CANT READ THAT CHRIST IS CREATED IN COL 1:15. THAT IS JUST YOUR OWN EXPLANATION. WE DONT NEED YOUR OWN WORDS MIKE. WE NEED THE EXPLANATION OF THE BIBLE NOT YOURS!jammin,Is the firstborn of the flock a MEMBER of the flock? YES or NO?

Quote (jammin @ Dec. 29 2011,19:35)mike,where did you read in job 1:6 that satan is called son of GOD?Against my better judgment, I'm going to give you ONE MORE TRY, jammin.From now on, address me as if you were addressing your father, and not one of your skateboarding buddies, okay?Now, listen VERY CAREFULLY here, and actually ADDRESS these…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Dec. 29 2011,19:12)Job 18:1321st Century King James Version (KJ21)13It shall devour the strength of his skin; even the firstborn of death shall devour his strength.mike and terrarica, it says there FIRSTBORN OF DEATH. DOES IT MEAN FIRST DEATHFrom NETNotes:Job 18:13   The “firstborn of death” is the strongest child of death (Gen…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Dec. 29 2011,19:11)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 30 2011,12:09)Mark,I don't have access to the people who incorrectly translated the New Living Translation.  I only have access to YOU.So since it was YOU who posted their flawed rendering as support of YOUR belief, then I suppose it is YOU who needs to address the points I made in…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Dec. 29 2011,19:09)mike and terrarica, maybe mike you can help terrarica finding a “WORD First creation” in col 1:15? bec terrarica is always insisting that christ is created and HE used col 1:15? both of you are always twisting the WORD of GOD. mike and terrarica, im still waiting. are you afraid to answer hahahahahahha. your…[Read more]

Mark,I don't have access to the people who incorrectly translated the New Living Translation. I only have access to YOU.So since it was YOU who posted their flawed rendering as support of YOUR belief, then I suppose it is YOU who needs to address the points I made in objection to that translation, right?

Mark,That's just a nonsense statement designed to protect you from your own flawed logic and understanding.If the doctrine is totally debunked by the actual scriptural words, the believers of that doctrine say things like “Well, WE don't have to understand it.”  And, “It is a mystery.”Come to think of it, that is often how pastors “explain” the…[Read more]

Does everyone now understand that any time Jehovah claimed to BE Jehovah, He said, in Hebrew, “aniy yhwh”, which means “I am I AM”.Jesus doesn't say the phrase “I am I AM” in John 8:58 – or in any other scripture.Therefore, the old Trinitarian mainstay that Jesus was claiming deity by saying “I am” is complete and utter nonsense.  On the other…[Read more]

Ed, is there more than one meaning of “word” in the scriptures or not? Don't pull a Gene on me – just answer the question, okay?

Quote (TimothyVI @ Dec. 29 2011,10:36)Why else would the first fish want to walk out of the ocean?  That's what I'm saying!  How is it that those plants and insects were already evolved and there waiting for that first fish?Quote (TimothyVI @ Dec. 29 2011,10:36)You of course understand that this would not happen over night.In my understanding, i…[Read more]

My answer is “NO”, Gene.The Being of God Almighty was not physically within the flesh body of Jesus at any time.The phrases “the Father is in me” and “God is with us” are metaphorical.God's dwelling place is in heaven, as is made clear many times in scripture.  That is where He spoke from when Jesus was baptized.  And that is where he was any t…[Read more]

Asana,I feel exactly the same about Revelation.  In fact, I've posted that it seems each generation is able to fill in the blanks according to what is happening in their own time period.  And this goes on and on, generation after generation.  For all we know, this stuff might not happen for another 10,000 years.Anyway, that seems a weak reason to…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Dec. 29 2011,13:29)Also NWT TO BE AWARE HOW CORRUPTED THEIR SCRIPTURE IS.Charles,Did you know there is a thread here called “Blatant Corruption in the NWT”? I have a standing challenge there to anyone who can post one single scripture that is translated wrong in the NWT.Few have even tried, none have succeeded. Perhaps you and…[Read more]

The Hebrew tetragrammaton is used. YHWH in Hebrew is inserted into the Greek text.

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2011,16:33)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 30 2011,01:57)Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 28 2011,20:18)Hi Mike,The “HolySpirit” is of God.And Jesus is the “Son” of God.So there's similarities to them both.Now what Ed?  Are you changing your belief from “The Holy Spirit IS God” to “The Holy Spirit is the SON OF God”?  Hi Mike,Nope; similarities t…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 29 2011,09:20)Jesus is “CALLED” the WORD of GOD HE himself Is NOT THE WORDS HE SPEAKS they are GOD'S Words.No Gene,Jesus is the Word of God because he is God's head spokesman. Just like I showed you how the spokesman for the King of Abyssinia is called “the word of the king”.

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 29 2011,09:57)Now Christ as said that he ad made the name of his father known to his disciples ,but his disciples did not make this name known to us in their written words ,WHY ?Pierre,The oldest mss of the NT we have come from about 300 years AFTER Jesus walked the earth. How can you be sure that the NT writers didn't…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ Dec. 29 2011,09:54)Evolution is a science, not my god, and has many proofs.There are indeed many proofs that creatures evolve according to their environments.There are no proofs that life started from non-living particles, and then evolved into the various life forms we see today.Absolutely none, Tim.Tim, when the “FIRST fish”…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 29 2011,09:25)And adam lived another 800yrs:and he begat sons and daughters.It does not say that, when adam was 800yrs he begat sons and daughters.What it does say is:  AFTER Seth, Adam had other sons and daughters.In fact, that is said all throughout the genealogies.  They list the firstborn, and then say AFTER THAT, so and s…[Read more]

I misspoke, Pierre.