Quote (jammin @ Jan. 02 2012,21:07)The noun form is here used, not the adjectival theios, which would be required to simply classify the Word as “god-like.”That is a wonderful bit of info, jammin!  Thanks.So now we've eliminated two of the three possible translations of 1:1c.  The three possible translations are:1.  God2.  a god3.  di…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 02 2012,21:06)Quote (mikeangel @ Jan. 02 2012,03:17)“like God” or “as God” are not “you will be God to him”.Actually Mark, The Hebrew text says “you will be God to him”.  It is English translators who change the text to “like God” and “as God”.

Quote (jammin @ Jan. 02 2012,20:18)in john 1:1 it says in NWT a god. can you give me other translations that says a god in john 1:1?This page lists quite a few of them. It also lists many “the Word was divine”, and similar translations. 70 of them in all.

Or perhaps Wakeup just doesn't like to think of God having a name at all.  He/She needs to read Exodus 3, where Jehovah not only told us His name through Moses, but also said that this is the name He is to be remembered by from generation to generation.Wakeup, did you get a chance to check out that link I left in the other thread?  Here it is a…[Read more]

Quote (toby @ Jan. 02 2012,14:53)But, on a simple matter – Spirit, in context of Luke's verse, does mean 'Spirit Being'. I would have thought that was obvious. Now you see where Gene is wrong………..Gene,Do you agree with Toby's assessment? Or are you still unable to see that the word “spirit” in Luke 24:37 means “spirit being”?

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Jan. 03 2012,10:57)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 21 2011,03:29)Atheists,What is your end game? Christians are called to spread the gospel to non-believers; but what's in it for you?  I'll let Steven Weinberg answer that one:Quote With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But…[Read more]

Quote (barley @ Jan. 03 2012,17:34)Jesus Christ in his resurrected body was not a spirit being.I agree, oatmeal.  How have you been?Quote (barley @ Jan. 03 2012,17:34)There are no scriptures to suggest that that has changed.If anything there are verses that support that.Philippians 3:21″Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 03 2012,18:06)it is understood that she entered the service in the temple as a virgin and stay there all her remaining liveInteresting, Pierre.I have already posted to WIT about different ways one could be “totally devoted/destroyed” to God.  And this reasoning about Jephthah's daughter might apply.It would be nice to…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 02 2012,20:57)That is true so I will concede that the vision is centered around that time from there I can only say that if John had the preconceived notion that Jesus was dead his vision would also reflect that but I would also conclude that if we hold it within that context all talk of the Antichrist, beast and False…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Jan. 03 2012,09:57)By the way, good catch on my challenge.  I stand corrected.  What I should have said was:Name one leader who was said to have God's spirit on him who was not immediately punished for disobeying God or committing some sinful act.Remember, right before Jephthah made his vow, the “Spirit of the Lord” came upon h…[Read more]

Hi Wm,I got back from Cali yesterday.  Sunny and 70's all six days!  No rain, no accidents, no car troubles, no illnesses.  It was a perfectly blessed vacation.  I believe Jesus was raised in the same body he died in.  He remained in that flesh body for 40 days before ascending to heaven.  But 1 Cor 15:45 says that Jesus became a spirit.  And…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Jan. 02 2012,19:26)mikeangel, mike is having a hard time answering your questions. hehehehe jammin,You must be reading this thread with the same eyeglasses you use to read the scriptures – because you are coming to flawed conclusions here too.

Quote (carmel @ Jan. 02 2012,07:57)Now to whom is the reference in:11For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren, So it is clear here that Jesus sanstified us through His death in order to be called brothers to Him,Yes Charles,10 In bringing many sons to glory, it…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Jan. 01 2012,14:26)If the WT and Witness apologists use Dodd to defend the NWT translation in the face of accusations that it is ungrammatical, I cannot find fault with such a citation.Enough said!  “A god” IS grammatically acceptable, and is attested to by the 25 Trinitarian scholars of NETNotes, C. H. Dodd, Greek Professor Jason…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Jan. 01 2012,15:27)First, you never answered my question from a while ago-Why should I pay attention to your answers or words if they are not you? Whose thoughts and opinions are they?They are MY thoughts, Mark.Can't you see through your blinders that your word “whose” and my word “MY” reflect ownership?  You are asking who my…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 29 2011,21:26)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 30 2011,10:36)Asana,I feel exactly the same about Revelation.  In fact, I've posted that it seems each generation is able to fill in the blanks according to what is happening in their own time period.  And this goes on and on, generation after generation.  For all we know, this st…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Jan. 01 2012,10:33)Like you have been telling Gene there are different types of spirits I believe there are different types of flesh1 Corinthians 15:38 But God gives it a body as he has determined, and to each kind of seed he gives its own body. 39 Not all flesh is the same: People have one kind of flesh, animals have…[Read more]

Quote (toby @ Jan. 02 2012,14:53)But, on a simple matter – Spirit, in context of Luke's verse, does mean 'Spirit Being'.  I would have thought that was obvious.It IS obvious.  And because it is obvious, it goes to show that there are more than the one meaning of “spirit” in the scriptures that Gene thinks.  And also more than the two meanings yo…[Read more]

Thank you……………..I think.

Quote (toby @ Jan. 01 2012,15:44)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 01 2012,13:02)Quote (toby @ Dec. 31 2011,19:44)What did the disciple think they were seeing: They 'Thought' they were seeing a Spirit (Being).Hi Toby,So then the word “spirit” in Luke 24:37 actually MEANS “spirit BEING”, right?  That's all I've been trying to show Gene for over a month.Hi…[Read more]