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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 14 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Stu @ Jan. 07 2012,23:16)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 27 2011,00:54)Princess, please refrain from speaking to me unless you have something substantial to add to the discussion, okay?Perhaps she should get back to the kitchen while she is at it. And not worry her pretty little head.And there was I wondering when you would make a worthwhile…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 14 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 07 2012,20:53)Ironically Mike you just went against your own logic being that God owns EVERY single in existence how can any sacrifice of anything be of benefit to him in anyway HE owns it all anyway…….. And that's why I'm quite convinced that God would never ask me to sacrifice my son.  Read my signature, Asana.  I c…[Read more]

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    Quote (toby @ Jan. 07 2012,20:21)For instance, why base your answers to Angels/Spirits – by reference to the physical world?This is YOUR misunderstanding.  Why do you assume angels are “immaterial” or “non-physical” beings?  ???  Did an angel tell you this?  Or are you just convinced that because WE can't see it, it must not consist of mat…[Read more]

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    My mistake Marty.  I don't believe Jesus is Michael, and I never have.  I should have said “Gabriel” instead of “Michael”.My point is that if God decided to take a spirit being who had existed for eons, and bring him to life in flesh through a human woman at a later date, then all the things said in the scriptures you posted could also be said o…[Read more]

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    TRINITARIAN scholars are the ones who have eliminated all possibilities EXCEPT FOR “a god”. Will you believe your own TRINITARIAN scholars, jammin? YES or NO?

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    Quote (jammin @ Jan. 07 2012,19:05)christ is the son of GOD! not the father!Check, and mate, jammin!1 Cor 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father………YOUR OWN WORDS say that Christ is NOT the Father. And the words of scripture say the Father is our ONE God. In John 17:3, Jesus calls him the “ONLY true God”.You have just successfully…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 14 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Jan. 07 2012,19:05)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 08 2012,06:03)Well, I've just given you some evidence to the contrary.  It is called “mathematical odds”.  What are the odds that life not only derived itself from nothing, but “thought” ahead to give itself a way to reproduce?  The odds AGAINST this nonsense are astronomical.How ab…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 14 years, 10 months ago

    :) What, is YOUR faith “firsthand”? Did you actually SEE with your own eyes life starting from nothing? ???

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    What would you like me to explain, Marty?If Michael the archangel was to be sent to be born of a human woman, would not all of those same things still be said of him, despite the fact he already was Michael for many years in heaven before he was born of a woman?

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 07 2012,18:15)this is how the Pharisees where talking to Christ ;WE know”WE believe ,WE have Moses,WE have Abraham for father WE,WE, the big WE” where God is reduced to a stand buyer ,Pierre,Your point is excellent.  Your English, not so much.  :)  The term is “bystander”, not “stand buyer”.  A stand buyer would be som…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 14 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Jan. 07 2012,17:52)The difference between you and me is that you think that you actually know God. You think that you have already heard from him.I have never heard from God as far as I know, WIT. I believe God has helped me with urges, given me a “wake-up jolt” when I was about to do something unrighteous, and shown me…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 14 years, 10 months ago

    Well, I've just given you some evidence to the contrary. It is called “mathematical odds”. What are the odds that life not only derived itself from nothing, but “thought” ahead to give itself a way to reproduce? The odds AGAINST this nonsense are astronomical.How about the odds against a being much greater than mankind creating us? Even odds?

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 14 years, 10 months ago

    Hi Tim,If I couldn't be sure without a shadow of a doubt that it was God doing the asking, I wouldn't do it.I don't think God would permit Satan to do what you suggest. In the case of Job, Satan could only do what God permitted him to do. Anyway, enough talk of me killing my son, okay?

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    Gene,You aren't even able to understand that “spirit” in Luke 24:37 means “spirit BEING”.  The clear facts are right there in front of you, yet you can't see it.That causes a problem for you.  Imagine that someone insisted that God was a jelly bean, no matter how many scriptures you showed them to the contrary.  Would you then be interested in an…[Read more]

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    Same spirit, but jammin believes the Son OF God is the God he is the Son OF.JA at least knew Jesus is God's Son, and not God Himself.

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 14 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Jan. 07 2012,14:48)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 08 2012,00:36)WIT, Tim, or Stu (if he ever decides to return), Tell me about reproduction.  Let's say that life spontaneously happened due to “the perfect storm” of events and circumstances.  WHY would that first life form exist with the ability to reproduce?Why would it not only be a…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 14 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Jan. 07 2012,14:34)To answer your question, if I had a rational reason to quarantine my child, then I would, but I would not purposely kill my own child under any circumstances.And therein lies our difference, WIT.  You don't consider a direct command from the One who created and owns every single person in existence to be a rat…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Jan. 07 2012,14:56)No, I do not believe that Yahweh's word is Yahshua! Father Yahweh's word is just that, His word!And how then do you explain 1:14, Frank? Did Jehovah's word BECOME flesh? How does that work?Did Jehovah's word DWELL among men? What does that mean?Did Jehovah's word have the glory of God's only begotten?…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Jan. 07 2012,12:52)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 08 2012,05:06)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Jan. 06 2012,17:07)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 07 2012,09:49)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Jan. 06 2012,10:22)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 06 2012,12:11)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Jan. 04 2012,20:53)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 05 2012,13:45)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Jan. 04…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 05 2012,22:46)Mike,The Greek word translated as 'came out' is:exerchomai: to go or come out ofShow me where anything was said to 'exerchomai' from God besides His Only Begotten Son.The word “exerchomai” derives from “ex”.  And it is “ex” which is used in the following verse:1 Cor 8:6 NET © yet for us there is one God, the F…[Read more]

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