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    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2012,09:19)Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2012,22:38)Hi Wake-up,        You say:Quote   God had no beginning brother,neither his word had no beginning.        You also say:Quote   you can never say; in the beginning was GodSo why can you say “in the beginning was the word”, but at the same time you say you cannot say “in the begin…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2012,21:28)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 26 2011,01:10)I agree with you that Michael was one of the angels made THROUGH the Word of God, who is Jesus.  Jesus didn't MAKE Michael and the other angels, they were made by God THROUGH Jesus.  As Tertullian brilliantly pointed out in one of his writings:He who makes is one, and he T…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2012,21:16)Mikeb.God did not reveal his name to moses,he just said I AM THAT I AM. This is a statement: I am everything,I am all.Tell the children of israel; i am the God of abraham,isaac,and jacob. THIS IS MY NAME FOR EVER.(ex.3:14.15.)Interesting that your claim directly contradicts the scripture you listed to support…[Read more]

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    Quote (seekingtruth @ Jan. 10 2012,11:31)Mike,I believe your missing the point Job was making, he realized that although he would die and his flesh rot, he would see God with his very own eyes, stressing that it was his, not anothers. My opinion – WmHi Wm,Did you read the NETNotes info I posted? The part in green where they say the Hebrew is…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 10 months ago

    Ed, a CD OF me that was WITH me cannot possibly BE me.

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 10 2012,08:22)Mike…………Why don't you list us all your “MANY” conceived “DIFFERENT MEANINGS” of the word Spirit.Okay Gene,From NETNotes:1) the third person of the triune God, the Holy Spirit, coequal,coeternal with the Father and the Son1a) sometimes referred to in a way which emphasises hispersonality and…[Read more]

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    :) I've heard it said that He always answers them, too. It's just that sometimes the answer is “NO”. :)

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    Hi Ed,Don't you believe Jesus is a creation of his God?

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Jan. 09 2012,20:37)Mike,I would agree that 'Yahweh Tzidhenu' (Yahweh Our Righteousness) would be better translated into our English language as 'Yahweh our Righteousness'……………Many erroneously believe since Yahshua is called or named “The Word of Yahweh” in Revelation 19:13 that he is and LITERALLY was the word of…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Jan. 10 2012,10:45)Quote (t8 @ Jan. 10 2012,15:49)Frank, how many people have you told the following about yourself.You existed in the form of God, emptied yourself, came in the flesh, and will eventually die and be in the glory you had with God before the world began.Is the answer none? I thought so.So why is it that if…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Jan. 09 2012,20:52)Mike,Sorry to hear that you would not have esteem for a son (daughter, child) that had not yet been born or came into existence. Would you express such a rude thought to your wife who was expecting a son (daughter, child) of yours? Come on now, Frank.  :)  I haven't the foggiest idea what “glory” my 10 year o…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 14 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Jan. 10 2012,09:16)You wanted to know about fish crawling out of the sea to become cacti.What I want to know, is why the guy on the nature program showed me the fossil of the “first fish” to grow legs and crawl out of the sea, ONLY TO FIND A VAST FOREST OF PLANTS AND INSECTS ALREADY LIVING THERE.I want to know how, what, and…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 14 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (TimothyVI @ Jan. 10 2012,04:30)I think that you have it all wrong Mike.Jesus never “dumbed down” anyting to make it easier to understand.TimI believe you are wrong, Tim. Imagine God telling a prophet about creation 100 years ago. Would it have done God any good to speak of sub-atomic particles, DNA, string theory or whatever – to a person…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 14 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Stu @ Jan. 09 2012,22:07)Can I take that as an apology from you, that on this occasion you realise I never made those claims, that no scientific theory makes those claims and you putting those words in my mouth really rules out your own credibility?Thanks.Now, what are you actually asking about?  Perhaps you could have a go at just asking…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 14 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Stu @ Jan. 09 2012,22:01)See what I am getting at?  You would accuse me of being lacking in the basic knowledge that in fact Abraham did not kill his son.Absolutely I see what you are saying, Stu; but you are wrong about how I would handle that situation.I have spoken to many here on the site who are new to the scriptures.  And if they s…[Read more]

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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 05 2012,23:26)MikePaul preached a different Gospel than Jesus and the disciples of Jesus preached or didn't you understand that?You're kidding, right? 1 Peter 11 …….for obedience to Jesus Christ and sprinkling by his blood……Was the blood of the scapegoat ever shed, Asana?3 Praise be to the God and Father of our…[Read more]

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    Hi Wakeup,Here are the two points again:1. Who had glory alongside his God before the world was created? (John 17:5) 2. If all things were said to have been created through “The Word”, “The Son of God” and through “Our Lord Jesus Christ”, then it stands to reason that they are all one and the same, and therefore all “The Son of God”. Do you agree?

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    Quote (jammin @ Jan. 08 2012,17:42)ONE GOD, THE FATHER! NO DOUBT MORON! ONE LORD, CHRIST! LORD IS GOD! Really? ???Okay, so if our Lord Jesus Christ IS God, then who is this other God that is the “head of Christ” in 1 Cor 11:3?Because it seems to me that scripture says we have but one Lord, Jesus Christ, whose HEAD is our one God, the Father.Am I…[Read more]

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    Quote (942767 @ Jan. 08 2012,21:25)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 09 2012,12:19)Marty, is it possible for God to cause one of His angels to be born of flesh from a human woman?  YES or NO?No.??? Is it possible for God to cause a human being to be reborn as a spirit being? YES or NO?

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    Quote (carmel @ Jan. 09 2012,08:43)Who would suffer at the end??the food,my business,my employee, or even ME.IF SO THEREFORE ALL ARE SERVING,AND ALL ARE BEING SERVED.DON'T YOU THINK SO MIKE?Of whom is God a servant, Charles?Besides, you're missing the whole point. YOU brought up “anointed” in your last post to me. I'm trying to explain to you…[Read more]

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