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Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 17 2012,21:24)God's word is, of God, not a person!God's WRITTEN word, the Bible, is not a person.God's Word, as in His SPOKESMAN, is a person.Ed, you don't have to believe it. It's just that I've spent MANY hours researching and posting scriptures to you already.If you're not going to understand what everyone else in the world…[Read more]

Kathi,I don't know where you got lost on the Trinitarians' belief in ONE BEING of God, in THREE persons.They believe God is ONE BEING. You believe we have TWO BEINGS, who are EACH “God Almighty”. Nor do I know why specifying this is necessary in the first place.You should be more interested in the fact that Jesus was MADE PERFECT through…[Read more]

Green Bay is out. They lost to the Giants Sunday.

Quote (shimmer @ Jan. 18 2012,15:00)Obviously though Spirit Beings can CHANGE when they come down here, such as the Angels, when they are appearing to Man.We've heard this all before, Shimmer.  But with no scripture to support it.Consider that when some of the angels mated with human women, their offspring were something OTHER THAN human beings.…[Read more]

Quote (thehappyman @ Jan. 17 2012,22:08)Hi ,      wasn't Moses and Elijah in their bodily form when Jesus spoke with them in an transfigured state. ? Matt 17:2I assume they had bodies, for the men recognized them for who they were. (How they knew what these two men looked like on earth, I don't know.)But does having a body mean it has to be a fl…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Jan. 17 2012,20:59)Can someone tell me what scripture(s) states that Jesus changed from body to spirit during the Ascension? Thanks – WmHi Wm,Scripture says that Jesus was made of flesh and bone after the resurrection.  Scripture says that flesh cannot inherit God's Kingdom.  Scripture says that Jesus BECAME a life-giving s…[Read more]

Quote (toby @ Jan. 18 2012,15:47)From what did Jesus 'transform from' and transform to' –  in your opinion?FROM:  The lowly flesh body he dwelt in while on earth, and was subsequently raised from the dead in.TO:  The glorious NEW body that Paul speaks about in Phil 3:21.Jesus WAS flesh.  Jesus is NOW a life-giving SPIRIT. Spirits don't have fle…[Read more]

Quote (toby @ Jan. 17 2012,20:13)If the Soul is to be clothed in the new glorious body, then what is it presently clothed in – Mortal Flesh, maybe?So what is the new 'clothes' – Immortal Flesh, maybe?Flesh cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. So “immortal flesh” will not work here.Other than that, I don't see where you actually ADDRESSED any…[Read more]

Proverbs 8 NIV 1984 22 “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works,   before his deeds of old; 23 I was appointed from eternity,   from the beginning, before the world began. 24 When there were no oceans, I was given birth,   when there were no springs abounding with water; 25 before the mountains were settled in place,   before the h…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 17 2012,22:41)Read this to help you know the answer.Exodus 13Consecration of the Firstborn………………So then, the actual ANSWER to my question is:Even though it is worded as “the firstborn of the flock”, for example, it doesn't refer to “the flock”, as a whole, being the FATHER of this one.  INSTEAD, IT REFERS TO…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 17 2012,22:06)The NET translators say that they 'argue' for the translation to be 'created' but I believe their argument is just an argument…their guess.Btw, nothing is said that create and given birth were synonyms except in your mind.Once again:the parallel ideas in these verses (“appointed,” “given birth”) argue f…[Read more]

Frank,Thanks for the info about the pronunciation of YHWH!    And thank you for making a thread to continue that discussion somewhere other than here. Unfortunately, that leaves us right here where we left off:Frank, please give a VALID, SCRIPTURAL reason why the Word of God in John 1:1 and 14 cannot possibly be the same person as the Word of G…[Read more]

Hey All,Thanks for your posts.  Everything each of you wrote is a slice of HISTORY, as recorded in the Bible.I will ask each of you the following questions, and if the answer is YES to any of them, I will look deeper into it.  If the answers are all NO, then my involvement in this discussion is over.1.  Does the Bible tell anyone who reads it to…[Read more]

Oh dang! I guess you got me, jammin……………..ONLY IF THE SCRIPTURE ACTUALLY SAID “DIVINE BEINGS”, which it DOESN'T! But speaking of check mate, I'm about to go play some online chess right now. See ya tomorrow!

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 15 2012,11:31)Terricca……………I and other have produced hundreds of them but you have yet to acknowledge any other them or test them either.Okay Gene,Put your money where your mouth is. Post ONE scripture right now that PROHIBITS Jesus from pre-existing as a spirit being BEFORE he was made in the likeness of a…[Read more]

I can read in Acts 4 that Heb 1:10 refers to the Father, because the Father alone created all things. In fact, I can read it in a hundred different scriptures.So the real question is, can YOU read that it is about the Son…………….IN THE ORIGINAL TEXT – NOT ONE OF YOUR DOCTORED TRANSLATIONS?

Quote (jammin @ Jan. 17 2012,18:38)im asking you you mike, is satan divine?I never said he was. All I said was that he was a son of God.I say it, because scripture tells me so. You deny it, because you like your own scriptures better than the real ones.

Quote (jammin @ Jan. 17 2012,18:37)Quote mike:If God created Satan, then Satan is God's son. God did not create satan mike. hahahaaanother opinion from mike. give me the verse. 24 When they heard this, they raised their voices together in prayer to God. “Sovereign Lord,” they said, “you made the heaven and the earth and the sea, and every…[Read more]

So ALL the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord. Satan came AMONG them to present himself before the Lord, but wasn't one of them? Keep dreaming, Sunshine.