Quote (princess @ Jan. 22 2012,06:07)No need to Stuart, I was not questioning that she was not real, I was questioning the way he treated her in the past, by catering to all her needs, then when he found God he stopped, and she stills wants to maintain the original relationship, and had created his own cross to bear .Hmmmm…………..  I wonder…[Read more]

Quote (princess @ Jan. 22 2012,06:38)I do not doubt that something greater came upon you, however I do know that you stopped at where you were the most comfortable, where it suited your ego.“Something greater”? You mean like you and WIT, who inaccurately claimed that there are two different versions of the ten commandments, and then didn't even…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 20 2012,23:19)He was always perfectAnd Paul says he was MADE perfect.  Kathi, I will go with scripture over you every time.Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 20 2012,23:19)Millions believes that the Father is God and the Son is God and that the two are one natured and are a unity with their Holy Spirit. Kathi, do YOU believe that…[Read more]

Quote (toby @ Jan. 21 2012,15:29)For sure, their Bodies will be transformed from their 'Sinful, unrighteousness, subject to death and decay and inglorious state' – to a 'Sinless, righteous, ever living, undying and glorious state'. See, Mikeboll, the same flesh but transformed.Why do you suppose God will raise the elect in a new flesh body that…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Jan. 21 2012,17:58)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 22 2012,03:32)Quote (seekingtruth @ Jan. 21 2012,07:02)Hebrews 1:7 In speaking of the angels he says, “He makes his angels spirits, and his servants flames of fire.”Wm,It seems clear to me from scripture that while God can make His servants appear to us as flames of fire (Moses, Man…[Read more]

Quote (Jodi Lee @ Jan. 21 2012,11:29)because members we are of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones;Ephesians 5:30 NETBible © for we are members of his body. 1 Footnote #1:Eph 5:301tc Most Western witnesses, as well as the majority of Byzantine mss and a few others (א2 D F G Ψ 0278 0285vid Ï lat), add the following words to the end of the v…[Read more]

Quote (Jodi Lee @ Jan. 21 2012,00:04)The natural body is the mortal flesh and the spiritual body is the immortal flesh, both flesh!!So the dead will be raised with bodies that can't even inherit the Kingdom of God?  Surely that can't be right.

Hi Toby,I think it would really help us along if you were to directly address the points in my posts to you.  I've learned from my experience with a guy called Istari that me addressing points while you ignore them and continue to just keep writing more of the same thing over and over won't work.That in mind, and with the objective of getting to…[Read more]

Quote (toby @ Jan. 21 2012,15:14)You can't Transform Flesh and Bone (and Blood) into the form of a Spirit.That seems to be an odd and unsubstantiated statement.  Quote (toby @ Jan. 21 2012,15:14)Mikeboll, the Spirit is already a form Praise Jah!  You have come far since the last time we talked!Quote (toby @ Jan. 21 2012,15:14)And, a Form is not a…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Jan. 21 2012,15:03)I was pessimistic when the Ravens couldn't get that touchdown at the goal line.Dude, my stomach was in knots every time I watched the Cards this year.Despite the 8-8 record for the year, we only lost two of those 8 games by more than one score.That means that 14 of 16 games were neck and neck until the…[Read more]

Quote (princess @ Jan. 20 2012,21:47)Mike, told you anger issues…….they need addressed.Consider that last post an “addressing” of my anger issues. I feel much better now that that's off my chest! Thanks, Princess…………………..now go away.

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Jan. 21 2012,08:50)Mike,I can invent a 'god' in my imagination and then make a carved image of it and then consult it for advice. YHWH said that the gods of the heathen are merely carved images (Psalm 135:15-18).The god of Ekron was also a carved image. See Jodi Lee's post on page 7.Maybe you or Jodi can tell me who the gods…[Read more]

Not exactly. But I understand from the context of 1 Cor 15 that when Paul says “cannot inherit the Kingdom of God”, he is talking to people who have asked what kind of bodies they will be raised from death in.He is speaking as if he considers all of them to be saved and among the elect, as he ususally speaks.So he is speaking of the bodies they…[Read more]

Gene, address the points of my previous post, please.Let's say your dad's name was “James”, (because I don't know your father's name).Would it make sense for anyone to say, “Gene was the son of James, ACCORDING TO THE FLESH”?  YES or NO?

I think it means that people who consist of flesh cannot dwell in heaven.

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 21 2012,10:13)Here you go Mike, this should end this bit of “first created” false doctrine that you cling to in regards to Col 1:15.Indeed, the Watchtower Society is adding to the scriptures to support its doctrine and teaching that Jesus was created. That is not what Colossians is stating.Oh, you mean like these…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 20 2012,21:56)Note, I am not arguing that Jesus was alone as the creator, so no doubt that you can find passages that speak of another besides Jesus as the creator.  So what?That's NOT what I've found, though.  What I've shown you are scriptures where ONE is credited as creating ALL things, and Jesus is listed as someone O…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 20 2012,21:56)Mike, when was the beginning of the LORD's way? Hint, the LORD always existed.The word is understood as “works”………..see NETNotes about it.And since Jehovah always existed, the “beginning of His works” would be the first work He ever performed. And that is what I've been telling you all along: Jesus is…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 20 2012,21:05)The firstborn would not be part of the flock if their parents were not also a part of the flock first.  That is what you are missing, Mike.  If Jesus was the firstborn of all creation, then His Father would be a member of the created group.And in the case of every other firstborn, their fathers were also at o…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Jan. 21 2012,07:02)Hebrews 1:7 In speaking of the angels he says, “He makes his angels spirits, and his servants flames of fire.”Wm,It seems clear to me from scripture that while God can make His servants appear to us as flames of fire (Moses, Manoah), Hebrews 1:7 is not meant to teach that God's servants are ALL flames of…[Read more]