Quote (toby @ Jan. 23 2012,04:40)The pivotal point is the use of the flesh based term 'Man' in that verse.  It is agreed that Jesus is Spirit in Heaven – So how does Paul allude to Jesus being 'Man from Heaven'?  Why not 'Spirit from Heaven'? And does your theory hold as much water once you know that the word “man” isn't even in the Greek text?  …[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Jan. 23 2012,03:34)Hi Mike.  As far as I can see, NETBible 'Notes'  is the only “dictionary” that gives a definition of 'Spiritual', as meaning what you have pointed out.  Can you back your claim any better? (From a number of other sources?)The reason I say that, is because quite a while back, when you were looking for the me…[Read more]

Quote (toby @ Jan. 23 2012,00:34)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 23 2012,13:58)I don't really see how the ONE question I keep asking Gene affects you, or why you would bring Gene up in a post to me.  You have already admitted the error you made when you said that there were only TWO meanings of “spirit” in scripture; and you have since acknowledged the…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Jan. 22 2012,22:28)this also means they are not made of flesh or God would not have had to alter their perception to see them.Wm,We're not too different after all.  I used those same two examples (Balaam and Elisha) in a post to Wakeup just last night!    I agree with you that God can open our eyes to see angels, and not th…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 22 2012,14:11)mikeback to square ONEPierre Yup!

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 23 2012,01:54)Mike,Begetting the Son may have been considered a work, the first 'work' but that was not a creating out of nothing type of work.ALL THINGS in heaven and earth came “out from” the Father, Kathi. Jesus is no exception, as even you admit.I don't know where you get your “created from nothing” argument. Even if…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 22 2012,23:19)So Mike,He was brought forth by God HOW, created as a creature or born as an offspring?Can you please answer this question?KathiScripture says Jesus was “begotten”, “born” and “created”.John 112 Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— 13 c…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Jan. 23 2012,11:00)Actually t8 is like the JW's who believe that there are many 'gods.' Even if this were true, which it is not……………..Jack, you act as if the JWs and t8 just made this up out of thin air.  All we are doing is BELIEVING the scriptures that you choose NOT to believe:1 Corinthians 8:5For even if there…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 22 2012,13:25)MikeI'm not the one saying that creatures are the father of Jesus, you are when you tell me that Jesus is the firstborn of all creation instead of being the firstborn OF the Father.  He can't be OF both creation and OF the Father.  So tell me Mike, which was He born of?  Creation or the Father?Kathi,Bobo th…[Read more]

Gene, were you unable to answer my last post to you?

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 22 2012,19:57)Flesh and bone can not go through walls…………Flesh and bone can't normally walk on water or “time travel” to a distant place in a second, like the disciples on the lake, or Phillip after baptizing the eunich.  So that argument doesn't really work, Wakeup.Not to mention that Jesus point blank told his…[Read more]

Hi WmWhat is your answer to the bolded question I just asked Toby in the previous post?

Toby,Let's clear up a few things, okay?First of all, like I've already explained to you, I DON'T NEED TO USE THE TERM “SPIRIT BODY”, BECAUSE I COMPLETLY UNDERSTAND THE TERM “SPIRITUAL BODY” IN 1 COR 15.  So let's not even waste space with any more nonsense about me “making up terms”, okay?Secondly, Gene has NOT told me the definition of “spirit”…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Jan. 22 2012,15:09)I believe there are those such as angels who have spiritual bodies, not made from the stuff of our reality,Wm,And what do these beings consist of? Jesus makes it clear that they can't consist of flesh and bone in Luke 24:37. And Paul makes it clear that they can't consist of flesh and blood in 1 Cor…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Jan. 22 2012,16:27)That almost looks like a video of my son when dude missed that field goal.

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 22 2012,13:06)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)In Hebrews 1:1, through whom did the ONE who spoke speak?Through the prophets, Mike.You're two for two, Kathi.How many of those prophets WERE the God who did the speaking through them?

The Bible AGREES WITH ME, Marty – not YOU. Please tell me how a human being can be made into the likeness of a human being.

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 22 2012,18:30)“Evil from his youth”, not a sinner as an infant.Marty, The Hebrew word is:na`uwr 1) youth, early lifeAnd it is translated in the NET Bible as:In NET (47) : youth 24, young 11, earliest times 2, earliest history 2, childhood 1, earliest days 1, husband-to-be 1, younger days 1, previously 1, youth men 1, early…[Read more]

Quote (princess @ Jan. 22 2012,18:22)So yes Mike there are many sets of covenant codes however the only reference to the 'ten words' is the ritual decalogue. (Exodus 34.28) which is not the traditional ten commandments.Deuteronomy 9:1010 The LORD gave me two stone tablets inscribed by the finger of God. On them were all the commandments the LORD…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 22 2012,17:31)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 23 2012,04:04)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 21 2012,17:48)Sin is defined as the “transgression of the Law”,Yes Marty,That is ONE of the definitions.  Another is “the state in which all human beings are born due to Adam and Eve”.Hi Mike:Scripture please?Thanks,MartyYou mean other than Ps…[Read more]