Gene,How is it possible that Nehemiah speaks of saviors God has sent, and the angel in Luke speaks of the Savior Jesus' birth, when Isaiah 43:11 and 45:21 say there are no saviors apart from Jehovah?How is that possible, Gene?

A question pertaining to the scriptures, Ed. (Just like a spiritual body is a body pertaining to a spirit. )

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 29 2012,15:19)Mike,You answered correctly…there are two theos spoken about.  1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was in the beginning with God. 3All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.New question:Now…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 29 2012,16:14)MIke………..We can Know because ……………………….Gene, can you tell us all the DEFINITION of the word “spirit” in Luke 24:37?

Quote (seekingtruth @ Jan. 29 2012,15:11)Mike,So the tree of life would have killed his flesh, and then he sheds it to become a spirit, doesn't sound like a transformation to me, after all he already had a spirit.WmNot “killed” or “shed” Wm, but TRANSFORMED. This is just speculation, because there is no way for any of us to truly know what would…[Read more]

I thought Jehovah was the God of everyone, whether they know it or not.

No.  How could we know whether or not eating of the tree of life would transform a flesh body into a spiritual one?Perhaps the only difference between us and angels is that they ate from the tree of life.  The following is from the Book of Enoch 24:9,9And that tree of an agreeable smell, not one of carnal odor, there shall be no power to touch, u…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Jan. 29 2012,11:49)To All,Genesis 3:22 Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; and now, he might stretch out his hand, and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”. If Adam had ate from the tree of life God says he would have had an immortal body. How wou…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 29 2012,12:34)ED J……….I don”t think the opposing army or the Israel army saw them. But none of that does not mean they were not there becasue why would Elijah and the Lad see them if they were  Not there, we can only see at a very narrow spectrum of light.  peace and l…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 29 2012,12:12)MIke and Pierre……….Representing something and “ACTUALLY Being That SOME is completely different, a picture or Idol is NOT the REAL thing.I agree, and have never said any differently – so keep your insults to yourself, Gene.Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 29 2012,12:12)If MY GOD said there were “NO” GOD”S…[Read more]

I agree Pierre.  Paul doesn't say “false” god, and even though the idols themselves were not gods, many times they represented a real spirit being that the people who made the idol worshipped as their god – much like the golden calf that Aaron made.  The Israelites did not make themselves ANOTHER God, but made the calf to represent Jehovah.  So al…[Read more]

Hi Tim,I can't see where you addressed this post from page 40:Quote (ftk @ Jan. 20 2012,04:42)Its really an eternal judgment.Hi Tim,Isn't this a shift from what you've been preaching?  I thought you said it was a one-time judgment upon accepting Christ.  But now it seems like you are saying we are being judged by Christ constantly, and will be j…[Read more]

No thanks, Ed. I'm good just understanding basic grammatical rules, such as believing the writer is talking about the same subject until there is a good reason to assume he has switched subjects.There is no such reason in Col 1:15-16, nor in John 1:14-15.

Ed,It seems to me that Wakeup is saying that Jesus on earth was only a human being – not full God, or even half God.

I agree, Pierre.  But in jammin's case, he inadvertently gave, not only one great “Jesus is NOT God” point, but TWO of them!  Speaking with jammin is much like speaking with Kangaroo Jack:  They both act like children, and both of them have caused me to learn even better arguments AGAINST Jesus being God because of the things THEY posted!  I get…[Read more]

Thank you Pierre.

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2012,08:44)You use carefully constructed questions in an attemptto make others look like 'idiots' for believing as they do,Ed,They will only look like idiots if in fact their answers to direct, scriptural questions are idiotic. I can't make that happen unless they are already spouting idiotic, unscriptural things in the…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 29 2012,08:39)I believe GOD must Give us a “NEW SPIRIT” that changes our hearts in order for us walk in accordance to his Laws and statues and Be his true People.And until that time, He's not really our God? Is that it Gene?

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 29 2012,09:12)ED J……….Yes i do believe they were really there fighting on the side of Israel in that battle brother. I an believe Angels do have Bodies of some kind…………..Then you have admitted that people in scripture HAVE seen spirit beings, right Gene?

“My dear brothers, never forget, when you hear the progress of enlightenment vaunted, that the devil's best trick is to persuade you that he doesn't exist!” –  From a 1864 short story written by French poet BaudelaireThe greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist. – Kaiser Soze in The Usual Suspects