Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 03 2012,14:46)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 03 2012,15:30)Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 02 2012,19:58)AND SO “SATAN HIS THE GOD OF THIS WORLD BECAUSE IT IS HIS,”For now, anyway.  For the time being, dominion has been given into the hand of Satan.MikeThat is not what Paul and Jesus said at all is it…and his incomparably…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 03 2012,15:10)Hi MB, Indeed flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom. We need to be clothed with the new heavenly body, following the saviour.We do not yet know what we will be like but we will be alike to him with whom we should have become one in Spirit.Agreed.

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 02 2012,19:58)AND SO “SATAN HIS THE GOD OF THIS WORLD BECAUSE IT IS HIS,”For now, anyway.  For the time being, dominion has been given into the hand of Satan.  But that dominion will end at God's appointed time.(Good post, Pierre)

Wm:1 Corinthians 15:45 So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.2 Corinthians 3:17Now the Lord is that spirit, and where the spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.Are two scriptures enough to believe that Jesus is now a spirit being?

Quote (seekingtruth @ Feb. 02 2012,20:33)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 03 2012,08:14)Quote (seekingtruth @ Feb. 02 2012,17:32)Mike,I'm not asking for your best guess, so are you basically admitting that there is no scriptural support for your claim that “flesh cannot be in heaven”. Yes or NoWmI've shown you the scriptures, Wm.  1+1=2,…[Read more]

I agree with Pierre.  Happyman made a good point – one we've overlooked in the “Bodies” thread.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 03 2012,13:23)Hi, Jesus is yet a man with a glorified body and one with His Father in Spirit in heaven while yet sharing that Spirit on earth with his brothers.The Spirit transcends such boundaries and gives hope to his followers that when the earth is burned up they too yet live.Galatians 1:1Paul, an apostle—sent not f…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 02 2012,19:33)Jn 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.The words “who is in heaven” are thought to have been a marginal note from a scribe, that was somehow later confused as part of John's text, and added into later copies.Most translations leave those words out of the t…[Read more]

Jack,Jehovah called him “the god of Ekron”.  Why should I believe you that he is not a god when my own God said he was?And I can't say that Rev 12:10 hasn't happened, because I don't know.  Tell me how you do.

Hi Del,This thread is about whether or not spirit beings, such as angels and the resurrected Jesus, have bodies in heaven or not.What do you think?

Wm,You say that I'm twisting 1 Cor 15:45, which tells us that Jesus became a spirit.  You once asked for a supporting scripture.  How about this one:17 Now the Lord is that spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.Will that one work for you?

Very good, Pierre. I know that t8, Gene, Wm, Irene, KJ, and many others believe the same thing. I just wanted to see how many.Thanks for voting.

Your scenario doesn't apply.  Mine does. How do I know? Because of the SEVEN different scriptures I've showed you where Jesus is listed as someone OTHER THAN the ONE who created all things.And because of ALL the MANY scriptures that speak of our Creator, while NO SCRIPTURE ever speaks of our Creators.

Quote (toby @ Feb. 02 2012,17:31)SeekingTruth, are you saying that Jesus is in his flesh and bone body in Heaven?Wm?

Quote (toby @ Feb. 02 2012,17:31)Even Mikeboll has conceded that Spirits do not have bodies, and that Jesus is currently a Spirit Being.Is that a lie you're telling about me, Toby?  People can receive tiles here for that.Toby, will God leave us naked in heaven? Or will He give us a spiritual tent to replace the earthly tent we've lost? Which…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Feb. 02 2012,17:32)Mike,I'm not asking for your best guess, so are you basically admitting that there is no scriptural support for your claim that “flesh cannot be in heaven”. Yes or NoWmI've shown you the scriptures, Wm. 1+1=2, remember?

Really? No one has an opinion about this?

Wm, WHO exactly lives in heaven? What's your best guess? Spirit beings like angels? Or human beings like us?SPIRITS do not have flesh and bone, and they live in God's heavenly Kingdom – a place that flesh and blood cannot inherit.1+1=2, Wm.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 02 2012,15:26)For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and BROUGHT US INTO THE KINGDOM OF THE SON HE LOVES, Col 1:13Mike are you part of the kingdom of darkness or the Kingdom of God/Christ?WJThe kingdom of darkness is the world, of which Satan is now god. I am to be no part of that world, Keith.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 02 2012,15:23)Answer the question Mike.Does Jesus have all authority in the earth or not?WJI don't know. Has Revelation 12:10 happened yet?