Yes t8,We all see right through the real reason for this thread.

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Feb. 04 2012,12:51)Keith,There is not one scintillla of evidence in the scripture that God has turned authority over to satan. Jack, how could Satan have offered Jesus the kingdoms of the world if they were not his to offer?Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Feb. 04 2012,12:51)I'll tell you what this is all about. This is about Mike and…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 04 2012,13:33)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 04 2012,12:45)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 04 2012,11:13)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 04 2012,12:01)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 04 2012,10:39)Is there a scripture for your belief?You mean besides 2 Cor 4:4?  How about this one:Daniel 7 NASB25 He will speak out against the Most…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 04 2012,11:13)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 04 2012,12:01)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 04 2012,10:39)Is there a scripture for your belief?You mean besides 2 Cor 4:4?  How about this one:Daniel 7 NASB25 He will speak out against the Most High and wear down the saints of the Highest One, and he will intend to make…[Read more]

Quote (Jodi Lee @ Feb. 04 2012,10:23)1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus,Jody, this is the only scripture that you “Jesus is still a human being in heaven” people have, to my knowledge.  But let's look at the sentence all together:1 Timothy 25 For there is one God and one mediator between…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 04 2012,10:39)Is there a scripture for your belief?You mean besides 2 Cor 4:4?  How about this one:Daniel 7 NASB25 He will speak out against the Most High and wear down the saints of the Highest One, and he will intend to make alterations in times and in law; and they will be given into his hand for a time, times,…[Read more]

Keith,Can you understand that God has all power over all creation? Satan is not the god of this current world because Jehovah has less power than him. He is the god of this world because the One WITH all the power, Jehovah, has GIVEN it into his hand for the time being.You keep trying to convince us that Satan is less powerful than Jehovah, but…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 04 2012,08:46)Mike ………..If God said it it is a done deal. If he said he has made man a “LITTLE” LOWER then the ANGELS fro the tasting of DEATH but (HAS) CROWNED (all past tense statements) With GLORY and HONOR.Everything God created has its own glory, Gene.  Just because God crowned man with glory does not mean…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 04 2012,08:55)1)  MIke…………Show Scripture where there (ARE) Many GOD”S in Heaven or earth………… 2)  You argument is not with Me MIKE it is with GOD and who you twist UP his Words……….3)  Because Paul said there are so called GODS MANY does not mean he meant there really are GOD MANY.Look at your own wo…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 03 2012,20:06)It is amazing to me why you can't believe what GOD out of His own Mouth has Said , Satan is NO GOD…………..To the contrary, Gene, Jehovah Himself is one of the persons who called Satan a god.God said that apart from Him, there is no savior. Yet we know that God SENT other saviors into the world.God…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 03 2012,20:30)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 02 2012,09:37)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 01 2012,10:08)To ALL………..Question (IS) can anyone PROVE Jesus preexisted his berth on earth as a SENTINEL BEING?John 17:5And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.Jesus, as a…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 04 2012,01:31)The KJians keep adding more false doctrines as time goes on too. And the WJians I think concur with the KJians.

Toby,I will sum it up………..again.1 Cor 15 answers the question:  With what kind of BODY will the dead be raised?  And the answer is:  God gives everything a body as he has determined, and to each kind of seed he gives its own body. We were born with, and have shared the natural, earthly, flesh and blood body of those of the earth already.  B…[Read more]

John 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.Wakeup, if the sentient being “Jesus” said “HE” had glory alongside his God before the world began, doesn't it stand to reason that the sentient being “Jesus” existed as a sentient being before the world began?You are confused about John…[Read more]

Quote (Jodi Lee @ Feb. 03 2012,22:23)Bummer Mike, for it appears that you also want to make Jesus into some sort of spirit, and cannot accept his resurrected glory of flesh and bones.Actually Jody,It is a bummer that you don't believe the words of scripture:1 Cor 15:45 So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Ada…[Read more]

Quote (Devolution @ Feb. 04 2012,05:28)And angels, which are spirit beings, are indeed mightier than flesh, Do you suppose Jesus would be resurrected in a flesh body, to stay forever lesser than the angels, which are spirit bodied, spirit being greater than flesh? Since spirit is greater than flesh, of which the angels are, would it not be an…[Read more]

So did you vote “YES”, Gene?

Yes, but that doesn't answer the question. To what does the word “spirit” in Luke 24:37 refer? To a spirit BEING?In other words, what did the disciples THINK they were seeing before Jesus said he was not that?

Hi Wm,When Paul was “with them” in spirit, his flesh was not there beside them.We are not joined to the Lord in flesh – we are joined to him in spirit, sans flesh.And the grace of Jesus can be with our spirit, as OPPOSED TO our flesh.You said:Quote He was a being with a spirit when He walked the earth in his flesh.All living beings have spirit,…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 03 2012,16:14)If there wasn't a time when satan was in control of the kingdoms of this world there would be no need for this verse…”And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our LORD(YHVH), and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever…[Read more]