Quote (david @ Feb. 12 2012,20:14)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 13 2012,04:53)Pierre,I'm waiting for something unscriptural that the JWs teach.  You call them “false teachers” – prove it.Mike, I am beginning to think you are very similar to me.You know a lot.But you also like to debate.And, sometimes, for you, it doesn't even matter what you believe,…[Read more]

Nick,Are you able and/or willing to answer the question of the thread? Who said the words in John 17:5?Surely you know, right? Why not tell me?

Quote (toby @ Feb. 13 2012,15:09)Ok, so Mikeboll can't understand what the word 'Spiritual' means…………………Why are you singling ME out, Toby?  Everyone who has ever stepped foot on this thread agrees that spirit beings like angels have bodies…………..EXCEPT for you and (sometimes) Shimmer.And all the lexicons and scholars agree…[Read more]

Toby,Have you gone back to claiming spirits don't even have FORMS now? Because that's where you started off on this thread a long time ago. And then, more recently, I gave you a “Praise Jah!” when you mentioned that they have forms. (To which you asked, “When did I ever say they didn't?”)But now it seems like you're back to square one again? …

Quote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 12 2012,19:16)Jesus called us to preach the exact same gospel,  yet man doesn't preach the same gospel…………You sure don't.  Jesus preached that our God was his God.  You preach that Jesus our God, which would make him his own God if we add your teaching to Jesus' teaching.

No Gene,The question is whether or not spirit beings, such as angels and Jesus, have bodies in heaven. What do you say, Gene?

Quote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 12 2012,18:28)Let us break it down as you like to do. Take this part.for flesh and blood hath not revealed it What does this mean to you Mike?Quote The man a little while later Jesus says to him 'Get behind me Satan'..And a little while after that Jesus tells him three times “Feed my sheep”. Who else did he tell that…[Read more]

Quote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 12 2012,18:36)Pierre, you might want to reread about the Word,(Logos), it was always God and it will always be God.Interesting that the Word asks to be glorified alongside his God with the glory he had alongside his God before the world began.Do you see the word “ALONGSIDE God”? Can God Almighty be at the right hand of God…[Read more]

Gene,If you are going to tell people what I think, try to get it right, okay?

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 12 2012,14:44)If I had to choose a date when he ruled God's Kingdom (after the resurrection) and if it had to have the number 14 in there, then I would choose 0014AD, not 1914AD.When Jesus was only 14 years old, t8? THAT'S the date you would choose. I don't know about 1914, but I do know that in 96 C.E., John wrote his…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 12 2012,10:22)Mike………….And to you that is a scripture that say SPIRITS have BODIES. That is your answer?Gene, You already believe that angels have bodies, don't you? In case you didn't notice, that scripture I just posted says that angels are SPIRITS. 1+1=2, Gene.

From the “Satan was NOT the god of this age” thread:Quote (t8 @ Feb. 12 2012,15:37)I really do not understand why this is such a hot topic. Maybe this is a battle of wills motivated by pride and the subject is only secondary.Angels are ministering spirits and I think that they have bodies. After all they can be seen.Jesus has a body and as such he…[Read more]

That's okay, T8. I'll transfer your post to the proper thread because it is worth the perusal of the others over there.

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 12 2012,15:46)Quote (toby @ Feb. 13 2012,14:55)And finally, just what would a Spirit need a body for in the Invisible, incorporeal, immaterial realm, anyway?The body, in the physical world, is, after-all, a container, nay, a Restrainer, of the incorporeal Spirit.so what you saying is that in the spiritual invisible to our…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Feb. 12 2012,17:23)……….the word translated from “aion” only means endless when it derives its meaning or endlessness from the nature of the subject to which it is connected.Same with the Hebrew word “owlam”.  It is often translated as “from eternity” or “forever”, yet the word specifies an indefinite period of time,…[Read more]

Well put Wm…………..I concur.Pierre, that is also what I do. As questions come up on HN, they are in the back of my head as I'm constantly reading and re-reading the Bible; so when I come to a passage that answers my question, I am getting that answer right from God.

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 12 2012,16:18)this is the second time you ask me ,so I will applyThank you my friend. And for my part, I will disregard the JW threads from now on. It's just not worth the emotional toll. People can think what they want to think.peace,mike

Nick,I have concluded that you are a waste of my time.

That has nothing to do with the question of this thread, or with the subsequent question I asked you – at least not that I can tell.Are you saying Jesus and the Word of God became one being at the baptism of Jesus? What scripture tells you this? Or are you leaning upon your own human wisdom and logic?

He loved us so much that He watched His only begotten Son died a terrifying, painful death for us.  I believe God thinks more highly of mankind than you claim.Ezekiel 33:11Say to them, ‘As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! Turn fr…[Read more]