jammin,Let me try to dumb it down for you.If I have the form OF Adam, then I cannot possibly BE the Adam I have the form OF.If I have the nature OF Abraham, then I cannot possibly BE the Abraham I have the nature OF.Do you understand this elementary knowledge?  If you are able to understand this simple concept, then apply it to Jesus and his…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 03 2012,19:21)Notice it says :Job 1:6 One day the angels came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came with themIt doesn't say the angel satan came with them it makes a clear distinctionSo if it said, “All the kings came before God, and David came among them”, you would assume that David was not a…[Read more]

Marlin,It is never my intention to mock our one true God, the Father…………..or His servant that He appointed both Lord and Christ.

Quote (jammin @ Mar. 04 2012,07:59)but when it refers to christ, the bible does not teach that christ can share God's nature.and you agree with that.the bible says that christ has the nature of GOD! phil 2.6I'm still waiting for you to post the scripture that speaks of Jesus having God's nature at all. Phil 2:6 says “form”, not “nature”.Keep…[Read more]

Kathi,You have NEVER showed me that Jesus is eternal, or that he is ever called “Jehovah”.  That is just more wishful thinking on your part.  In fact, I believe you walked away from the discussion after I showed yout that “beginning of the creation by God”, the way YOU tried to claim it, would require Jesus to be a verb instead of a noun.I t…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 03 2012,19:48)Hi MB, If you choose to follow theology rather than scripture you should choose another site.Oh, you mean like the claim that Jesus became the Christ at the Jordan? Show me those words in scripture, Nick.If you cannot, then perhaps you would rather enjoy a man-made theology site over this one.Nick, I've…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Mar. 04 2012,06:28)Sometimes I wonder myself in what is Jesus different from you and me.And do you wonder the same thing about the God of Jesus?Btw, I coulnd't make heads nor tails out of your last post. I do know that I've never read in scripture about any “spiritual flesh”.

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 04 2012,07:25)Would you deny the royalty of an earthly prince because he was not the king?We don't deny the royalty of the prince, Kathi.  It's just that we don't confuse him with the King.  There is but one King, and the prince serves that King like the rest of us.Give unto the prince what belongs to the prince.  Give un…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Mar. 03 2012,21:18)they have the same nature.And some of us will have the same nature as God someday. Will those of us who receive this honor also BE God Himself?Does having the nature of the Omniscient Creator of all things make you the Omniscient Creator of all things? Only in Bizarro World.

Quote (jammin @ Mar. 03 2012,21:15)he existed when mike?God has existed from eternity. Jesus had his origins in ancient times. He was the firstborn of all creation – the beginning of the creation of his God. He has existed since before the ages as the first of God's works.

Quote (jammin @ Mar. 04 2012,06:47)the father is called the true GODthe son is also called the true GODThat would make TWO “true Gods”, jammin – since even you point out that the Son is not the Father.Do we have TWO Almighty Gods? Kerwin, good post. The meaning of the word “Christ” is something I've tried many times to get jammin to…[Read more]

Marlin,Satan also maquerades as an angel of light and reveals “truths” to those who fail to test the spirits by their fruit. You have failed to test the spirit that told you God was three against the scriptures that say God is one.Satan scours the earth looking for ones that fail to test what he tells them.Run a test, Marlin. Jehovah our God is…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Mar. 03 2012,20:44)john says in 1 john 5.20Christ is the true GOD!Wrong. It says the one true God has a Son named Jesus.

Quote (jammin @ Mar. 03 2012,20:44)therefore, he is a MAN! and not GOD who became flesh!That's right. Jesus was a man, jammin. God dwells in heaven. He never became flesh, and He never died. Nor does He have someone he calls “my God”. On the other hand, all of these things DO apply to God's Son.Keep studying, jammin. You'll do okay if you…[Read more]

Which one of your three Gods do you want to bless me?  Marlin, yet for us, there is but ONE God.Who does scripture say that ONE God is, Marlin?Oh that's right, it says THE FATHER.Maybe someday, you'll be one of the “US” that Paul spoke of.Trying to use scriptures that have been PROVEN TO BE SPURIOUS BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT will not get you…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Mar. 03 2012,19:55)Hi Nick:Are you saying that God is not a person?The kicker is that he probably doesn't even believe that himself, Marty. It's just that I've got him stuck between a rock and a hard place, and this claim was his only way out. Nick, does God have a PERSONALITY, according to scripture? If He has a PERSONALITY,…[Read more]

Marlin,You need to test the fruit of the spirit that gave you your revelation.  The Bible doesn't support that fruit.  Instead, it speaks of one God, the Father, who sent his only begotten Son into the world to die for our iniquities. He is not only our God, but also the God of Jesus. Do you claim that God is the God of God? And your spurious s…[Read more]

Yeah, a few of us have him pegged at about 14 years old.  And while it is commendable for a kid to have such an interest in scripture, it is often quite the bore discussing those scriptures with him/her.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 03 2012,19:28)Then show from Scripture the other points you make.What? YOU are the one claiming that God has TWO wills, Nick. Show me that from scripture.

Hmmmmm……………….Now you are willing to claim that the God in whose image we were all made is not even a person? Nick, I think you've topped Jack's claim that he and his dad are the same exact being. Can YOU show from scripture that Jesus is a PERSON? How about Abraham? Or David? Or Samuel?Shall we assume that none of them are persons…[Read more]