Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2012,18:27)This concept occurred to me and I submit it to see if it finds favour among the spiritual.Wouldn't it have been better for you to check if there were scriptures to support the concept before submitting it?Wouldn't it have been better for you to make sure it didn't blatantly contradict many scriptures?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2012,18:39)Hi MB, Whose will did the prophets do?The prophets were sent, NOT to do THEIR OWN will, but God's.Just like Jesus. Except in Jesus' case, he said he was sent DOWN FROM HEAVEN to do the will of Him who sent him.But you at least recognize that concerning the prophets and God, there were TWO wills, only one of…[Read more]

Toby,Here is the other “Bodies” thread I mentioned yesterday.I'm about worn out on this subject for a while.  I can only show the scriptures so many times before it becomes clear that enough just isn't enough for you.  Talk to Asana about it in the other thread if you want to.

Nick, According to verse 35, who said the words of verse 38?Will you take the scriptures at their word, like you constantly tell us to do? Or will you insert your own understanding into them?

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 05 2012,17:45)Nyour answer sound like the priest explaining the trinity Sure does.

Nick,Who do you think the other will belongs to?

Okay, so where were we?John 6:38 For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me.This verse speaks of someone who came down from heaven. This someone has a will of his own, which is not necessarily in line with the will of the one who sent him.This is evident from the fact that this someone says he did NOT…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 04 2012,21:18)I have no problem with your understanding “Person” from that perspective so I will in consideration of your point of view state that Angels are not Humans and God is not a Human although they are persons i.e. Having personalities I've invited Toby (Istari/JA) to your thread. I'm surprised he didn't show…[Read more]

Quote (toby @ Mar. 05 2012,03:48)You say that a Spirit has a Body.What is that Body made of, what is its composition?Spirit.I didn't read your following posts. Sorry, but you talk too much for my taste. Post a line or two, and I will read it and answer a question. But I'm not spending my evening reading novels by you.Truthfully, the fact that…[Read more]

Definition #5 fits nicely, Asana.  Have you seriously never heard someone talk about the funny PERSONality their pet has?  We run into the same thing with common dictionaries and “spiritual bodies”.  A dictionary wants to list a body as something consisting of flesh, yet you and I know there are bodies in heaven that don't consist of flesh, do…[Read more]

Scripture says he was conceived by God and Mary.Scripture also says he was existing in the form of God before this happened.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 04 2012,19:37)Hi MB, Scripture does not say”in the beginning there were two gods, Father and Son”Scripture says, “In the beginning was the Word. And the Word was with THE God, and the Word was a god.”That is what the scriptures say, Nick.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 04 2012,19:35)Hi MB There are not two Gods. As you quote-“FOR US There is ONE GOD…and one LORD Jesus Christ..”You are right, Nick. There are many gods and many lords in heaven and on earth. Scripture says so.But for US, there is but ONE God, who is Almighty and the God OF all those other gods.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 04 2012,19:25)Hi MB, I did not realise you put so much faith in theologians. They do not KNOW GodOkay Nick. Now we've come to know that you think God has two opposing wills, that He is not a person, and that it is possible for Him to be with Himself.Nice doctrine you have going there.

Quote (jammin @ Mar. 04 2012,19:16)Christ and the father have the same nature, GOD!But you are trying to use “God the person” as a species. As if Jesus and Jehovah are both part of a species called “godkind”.But if the scriptures even said, “Jesus has the nature of God”, it would be referring to God the PERSON.It would be the same as, “Mike has…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Mar. 04 2012,19:12)of course you are not THE ADAM! but your man nature is true!!!!!!That's right, jammin.Yet, one could easily say, “There is but one true Adam” if they were talking about the man who God created first.It would not mean we are “false adams”, but instead would be a way of recognize the original Adam as something more…[Read more]

Let me kill two birds with one stone here. This is from NETNotes concerning John 1:1……………..The construction in John 1:1c does not equate the Word with the person of God (this is ruled out by 1:1b, “the Word was with God”);Nick, you'll notice that even these TRINITARIAN scholars realize that the PERSON of God cannot be WITH the PER…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 04 2012,19:21)God can be a person,an entity,a being,an spirit ,show us any thing differentNot only can He be those things, Pierre, but He is.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 04 2012,19:06)Hi MB, And you would say this is a safe foundation to teach from?The WORD WAS GODWhy Nick? Tell me what sense it makes for God to have been WITH God in the beginning? There are TWO possibilities for the translation of 1:1c…………..1. God2. a godOnly ONE of those two prohibit you from making a fool…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 04 2012,19:09)NO,You didn't look up the word “entity”!I did though. It led me to “being”, which lead me to the synonyms “entity” AND “person”.From here.