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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 07 2012,18:33)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 08 2012,11:32)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 07 2012,18:30)Hi, If the Spirit of God prays to God……………What scripture is that?Hi MB Rom8 26-27Hmmmm…………… the spirit intercedes for us.  Jesus intercedes for us.  The Lord is the spirit.Is there a reason you believe that v…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 07 2012,18:31)Hi MB, You mean Jesus CHRIST?Yes,I refer to the one who was born Christ, Savior, Lord, and King of the Jews.

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 07 2012,18:30)Hi, If the Spirit of God prays to God……………What scripture is that?

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 07 2012,17:51)Hi MB, Does the Holy Spirit of God help us pray to God?How could this be?Rom8Why not? Can I pick up a child struggling in a swimming pool with my arm? If I can use a part of me to help another, why not God?

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 07 2012,17:48)Hi MB, You have a fine imagination.Where did anyone call you an expert?What imagination, Nick?  ???We know the Word of God in Rev 19 is Jesus.  We know that all things were created through Jesus.  So when we read that all things were likewise created through the Word of God who was with God in the beginning, it…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Nick,Does God have two opposing wills? YES or NO?

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 07 2012,17:43)Hiu MB, Worldly wisdom has some placeso long as you remember God has hidden from the wise and clever what is revealed to mere children.Expertise is a huge barrier. 1Cor 1Translation: Mike, YOUR understanding makes perfectly logical sense and mine doesn't. So all I have left is to pretend that I'm more…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Nick,Are you under the impression that the Word of God in Rev 19 is God Himself?

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Nick,The word OF should tell you that this Word is not God Himself, but a POSSESSION OF Him.  And if it is a possession OF God, then it is not “God”, but a possession OF Him.The Spirit of God has been described in scripture as “the finger of God”, right? So how's this:In the beginning was the finger, and the finger was with God, and the finger…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (shimmer @ Mar. 07 2012,16:55)THE WORD was in the beginning, and THAT VERY WORD was with God, and GOD WAS THAT WORD.You're capping the wrong words, Shimmer.that very Word was WITH GodGod cannot possibly be WITH God.  So if the Word truly WAS God, then he couldn't have been WITH God.Come on, people.  The following is from 25 TRINITARIAN s…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 07 2012,16:40)I didn't say you couldn't use the word person.But only that it may confuse others intobelieving you believe in the trinity;saying God is three “Persons”.I'll take my chances that people are LOGICAL and WISE enough to know the difference between “God is A person”, and “God is THREE persons”.Of course, Nick doesn't…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Nick,Without our God-given logic, you wouldn't even be able to read the scriptures, let alone understand one single verse.

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    All this talk of “logic is bad” is from those whose doctrines make no sense, like the Trinitarians and non-preexisters.They are always the ones who pull the “logic” card when it is shown that their doctrines are nonsense.

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    Quote (toby @ Mar. 07 2012,15:21)When you leave you Tent, are you still in a Tent?Does Scriptures not say that the Spirit is naked but will be put into a Spiritual TentWhat the scripture says is that God will not leave us naked, but will give us a spiritual tent to replace the earthly one we leave behind.

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    Quote (toby @ Mar. 07 2012,15:19)Mikeboll,When asked what the composition of Spirit is you answered: Spirit.This is an answer that displays lack of credibility of a responsible person.Spirit beings are made out of spirit.  What SCRIPTURE tells you I'm wrong? ???Quote (toby @ Mar. 07 2012,15:19)Mikeboll, here is your question:Why can we not see the…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 07 2012,09:17)To All…………Can't you all see how confused you are about what A SPIRIT (IS) , this is a fundamental Tent that need to be throughly understood, or you will have all kind of Mystery IdeologiesGene,What is the definition of the word “spirit” in Luke 24:37?

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    Quote (toby @ Mar. 07 2012,00:57)When the person dies, that is, the Animated Spirit of the Human Being leaves the body of the human Being then that Animated Spirit is 'No Longer' in a Body – it does not have a Body.What SCRIPTURE tells you this, Toby?

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    Quote (toby @ Mar. 07 2012,00:57)Please, the only question you need answer is: 'What is the body of a Spirit made of? What is its composition and show your source of evidence'.Answer: SPIRITEvidence: 1 Cor 15, 2 Cor 5

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    Hi Wm,I'm undecided. I can understand it either way. Was “to the point of death” meaning he was inches AWAY from dying? Or does it mean he actually died?I can see it your way easily enough, but I can also see “Sheol” as metaphoric language from Jonah.

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 07 2012,09:43) if John was meaning Jesus in John 1:1, would he not have just written Jesus there?If he meant Jesus in Rev 19:13 (which you agree he did), why didn't he just write “Jesus” there?If Jesus himself meant Jesus every time he said “the Son of Man”, why didn't he just say “Jesus” or “me”?Your argument is weak,…

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