Quote (toby @ Mar. 17 2012,23:26)You propose an agreement that I should not mention your name in this thread nor refer any posts in this thread to you.Well, I can do that.Will you refrain from tempting me by referring to me and refraining from posting to me?If so, then we have an agreement.The “tempting” part is the reason I prefer you just leave…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 17 2012,22:13)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 17 2012,20:20)Kerwin,The question of this thread is whether or not spirit beings, such as angels and Jesus, have bodies in heaven.  It seems we agree they do.Mike,The question of what the body from heaven is composed of is the question.Kerwin,Read the thread title again. The question is…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2012,02:08)But as Ed said and 1 Tim 6.15 shows, his God is the ultimate King.Hi NickPerhaps your “king” discussion with Ed will help me explain to you that Jesus is a “lessor god”.You seem to be able to accept that God is the “Ultimate King”, although there have been many lesser kings under Him.  For example, David…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 17 2012,21:30)I have answer Mike……………Ed,Pierre was posting many scriptures that display for us how important it is, not to only believe the words of God Himself, but also of the one He sent and appointed as our Lord and King.

Quote (942767 @ Mar. 17 2012,21:26)What Jesus said was as follows:Quote Jhn 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. And he was speaking of the glory that God was about to give him by exalting to his current position as head of the church as the judge of the living…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Mar. 17 2012,20:50)Hi Mike:You say:Quote I don't know, Marty.  I wasn't there.  But to have ANY KIND OF glory alongside God before the world began, he must have BEEN alongside God before the world beganYou do not know because God does not tell you that he had a former glory.   Jesus did not pre-exist his birth as a sentient pe…[Read more]

Mark 512 The demons begged Jesus, “Send us among the pigs; allow us to go into them.” 13 He gave them permission, and the evil spirits came out and went into the pigs.Demons are Satan's angels, Gene. (Rev 12:9) They are beings, yet here are called both “demons” and “spirits”.

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 07 2012,20:11)To All,Instead of everyone taking the opportunity to tell the Good this forum has done by telling what you have learned,it seems that most of you are using this thread to take a poke at others you disagree with.Truly a shame!Ed JAlmost as shameful as using this site to promote your own?  You have a point, Ed.…[Read more]

Quote (toby @ Mar. 17 2012,18:49)Mikeboll, are you telling me what and where I can post in this forum?I could prohibit you from posting on this site at all – for we all know who you really are.BUT……………….. instead I'm asking you as a favor to leave my name out of your posts from here on out. Don't address posts to me, and don't…[Read more]

If the post has all the numbers, I usually don't read it – sorry. Other than that, I do usually read your posts – unlike some others here. I'm sorry that I missed that part. Forgive me?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 17 2012,20:03)Hi ED,I would say that the Word is OF the Spirit of God.The fulness of the Spirit but God remained in heaven.Actually Nick,You claim that it was OF God and also WAS God.  You claim, that although BEING God, it had a will of its own that it didn't come from heaven to do.  You claim that God is its Father a…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 17 2012,18:49)Hi MB, I can see why you do not agree he was a man. To you he was a lesser god.Nick,If God in fact raised up sons of Abraham from rocks, as John the Baptist said He could, the fact that those rocks BECAME flesh would not eliminate the fact that they were once rocks.Likewise, the fact that Jesus BECAME flesh…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 17 2012,19:39)Mike,I enjoy the riddles!I would prefer to read some actual scriptures that support Nick's many claims.

Quote (942767 @ Mar. 17 2012,19:06)As you say, the church did not exist until he finished his work on earth, and he was not exalted to this position of glory as head of the church until his finished his ministry on earth. And so, he was not returning to a former glory by being exalted to his position as “head of the church”.Quote Hi Mike:And so,…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 17 2012,18:41)Hi MB,After the anointing the WORD is the subject.The vessel has become one with the Spirit.Now any reference to history includes Jesus.Show me from scripture, Nick. Show me that any past referrence to Jesus is talking about the spirit that would someday merge with Jesus.Explain it in light of scriptures…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 17 2012,19:13)I explained on the ninth post of the last page.I didn't read any explanation that I could understand.Ed, believe what you want. Many people on this site seem to do that anyway – despite what the scriptures or evidence says.In this case, the evidence says those words are spurious, and were never a part of the holy…[Read more]

Wrong.  The Word wasn't made flesh until Jesus was born of Mary.  Yet somehow, Paul says it was JESUS who was existing in the form of God before he was MADE INTO a human being.How did “JESUS” get into Paul's statement if “JESUS” wasn't really a part of the events described? Let the scriptures teach you, Nick.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 17 2012,17:33)Hi MB, You make him ANOTHER of your many gods?Yes Nick,Jesus is one of the MANY gods mentioned in the scriptures. His God is the God of gods. The God of gods is the God of all, including many lessor gods. Jesus is one of them.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 17 2012,17:32)Hi MB,Everything spoken through Jesus about these things was after the Jordan.Nick,Phil 2:5 says that JESUS Christ was existing in the form of God before HE emptied himself and was made into the likeness of a human being.It says JESUS, Nick. Surely Paul would have known if it was not yet Jesus, but merely…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 17 2012,17:47)Hi MB, Heb5 5So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee. 6As he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec. 7Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers…[Read more]