Quote (david @ Mar. 19 2012,18:42)I somewhat feel like I'm talking to Ed right nowThen don't bother with it anymore. I don't really care what you believe anyway, David. I will believe the very words of the angel, and you add your own stuff into his words if it makes you feel better, okay?

Then you'll fit right in here, David!

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 19 2012,10:51)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 19 2012,05:09)God cannot be WITH God, Nick.  The Word was a god who was with THE God in the beginning.  This is how John wrote it, and that is what it means.Hi Mike,Greek does not have “indefinite articles” SO JOHN COULD NOT HAVE WROTE THAT; are you lying or misinformed?    …or per…[Read more]

Ed,The definite article precedes ALL THREE mentions of “logos”, and the mention of “theos” only in part b.Transliterated, it says:  “in beginning was THE logos and THE logos was with THE theos and theos was THE logos”Notice that it doesn't say, “and THE theos was THE logos”.This translates into, “the Word was with THE god, and the Word was a…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 19 2012,17:49)Nick,Great Scriptural point, but the word “GOD” (small case or lower case) can also give reference in translation to others with power, strength or might (mighty ones).Thank you, Frank!  Will the others just pretend that this isn't true when it's all over the scriptures? However, the upper/lower case…[Read more]

Gene,Deuteronomy 10:17For the LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great God, mighty and awesome, who shows no partiality and accepts no bribes.Psalm 136:2Give thanks to the God of gods. His love endures forever.Gene, would you be so kind as to name one of these gods that Jehovah is the God of?Nick, how about you?

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 19 2012,11:41)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 19 2012,13:26)That's right, Marty.The glory “which I HAD with thee”.If you want to pretend Jesus is not saying HE HAD glory with God before the world began, then that is your choice.Mike,As a father my son had esteem before he came into existence and he did not pre-exist his birth…[Read more]

Gene,I have never said that angels are spirit bodies. I've said over and over that they HAVE bodies.Nor did I ever say Jesus cast out demons by the power of Beelzebul. I brought that accusation from the Pharisees up to show you that demons are Satan's angels.Gene, I don't know what to say to you anymore. It's like if I claim that Jesus was sent…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 18 2012,19:14)How about you address the info in the post, Nick?Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2012,19:12)Hi MB,Face the fact that none of us know much about God.Nick, if you admit you don't know much about God, then shouldn't you remain silent? Why do you try to teach that which you do now know?

That's right, Marty.The glory “which I HAD with thee”.If you want to pretend Jesus is not saying HE HAD glory with God before the world began, then that is your choice.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2012,19:14)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 19 2012,11:37)Nick,How do you define “god”?  Hi MB, My Father.Then you are neglecting to use the definition used by the writers of the scriptures.  It is no wonder that you are having trouble understanding titles like “God OF gods”, and “God Most High”.  And Paul's statement that th…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Mar. 18 2012,18:42)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 19 2012,11:32)Quote (942767 @ Mar. 18 2012,14:19)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 18 2012,14:34)Quote (942767 @ Mar. 17 2012,21:26)What Jesus said was as follows:Quote Jhn 17:5   And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2012,19:09)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 19 2012,11:46)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2012,12:46)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 19 2012,05:09)God cannot be WITH God, Nick.  The Word was a god who was with THE God in the beginning.  This is how John wrote it, and that is what it means.Hi MB, You understand this much about God??Or t…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 18 2012,17:13)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 19 2012,00:21)No, Ed.  A part of one cannot be said to be with that one.You don't say, “I'm going to the store, and I'm going to take my brain, spirit, feet, and soul with me.”Mike,If I state my soul is going to the store then where is my body and spirit going?That is EXACTLY my point,…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 18 2012,15:50)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 17 2012,21:08)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 15 2012,23:28)Be like Jesus Christ in your attitude, who being in the form of God, does not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but empties himself,  having taken the form of a bond-servant, having been made in the likeness of…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2012,12:46)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 19 2012,05:09)God cannot be WITH God, Nick.  The Word was a god who was with THE God in the beginning.  This is how John wrote it, and that is what it means.Hi MB, You understand this much about God??Or this little?? Put away the theology textbooksNick,This is the kind of response t…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2012,18:26)Hi MB, Jesus Christ preexisted. But not as a PERSONThe Word was with GodNick,How do you define “god”? Do you define it like most today, as “THE Omniscient Creator of All Things” – and no one else?Or do you define it as those who wrote the scriptures did?

Quote (942767 @ Mar. 18 2012,14:19)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 18 2012,14:34)Quote (942767 @ Mar. 17 2012,21:26)What Jesus said was as follows:Quote Jhn 17:5   And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.  And he was speaking of the glory that God was about to give him by exalting t…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 18 2012,12:56)Mike………..You ask how we would define the word GOD, I can give you my definition of the word , and will But now first give us YOUR Clouded one first. Then i will give you MINE>  From the first meaning of the word GOD it self.  I am Waiting?From Webster's Dictionary:any of various beings conceived of a…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 18 2012,12:31)Mike,Never is Shaul ever recorded in the so-called “New Testament” as saying “JESUS who was existing in the form of God before he was MADE INTO a human being.”5 Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, did not consider equality with God something to be…[Read more]