Nick,Can you refute the FACT that spirit messengers of God are typically called “angels” in scripture?  YES or NO?Can you refute the FACT that angels of God are called gods in scripture?  YES or NO?Can you refute the FACT that all who are called gods in scripture, and who are not the Most High God, are lesser gods?  YES or NO?Nick, there is no ne…[Read more]

Oh I see, Ed.  If YOU list THREE words that add up to the same number, it is THREE witnesses.  But if Asana lists FOUR words that add up the same number, he and ALL of his numbers only add up to ONE witness.Is that about right, Ed?   Asana, to answer the question of the thread, Ed can only confuse those who are willing to buy into his nu…[Read more]

Hi Frank and Gene.Nick has been so kind as to bring this scripture to our attention:1 John 1:1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked at and our hands have touched—this we proclaim concerning the Word of life.Who exactly is this “Word of life” that John and others have seen w…[Read more]

Nick,I see you doing a lot of smack talking to me and others…………..but I don't see you REFUTING the two points I bolded and offered you the chance to REFUTE a couple of pages ago.

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 26 2012,23:34)Matthew 2:4King James Version (KJV)4And when he had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the people together, he demanded of them where Christ should be born.Luke 2:11King James Version (KJV)11For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.Luke 2:26King James…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 26 2012,20:48)Hi MB,So angel means messenger.Angels can be called gods.BINGO! You've got it, Nick! Jesus is a spirit messenger of his God, and therefore an angel by definition. DO YOU AGREE? OR CAN YOU REFUTE?Angels are gods, according to scriptures, yet they are lesser gods than God Most High. DO YOU AGREE? OR CAN…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 26 2012,19:02)Hi MB, Happy to look at any scriptures that say Jesus is an angel or Michael or a lesser god. But there are none.Okay Nick,Are you ready to put your money where your mouth is?Revelation 1:1 The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place.Nick, are spirit…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 26 2012,20:19)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2012,20:18)Yes, Jesus Christ is the WORD. He called men to serve with him after his anointingNso the WORD is no longer God but Christ right ?Yeah Nick.Did what WAS God Almighty Himself become “NOT” God Almighty? Does God ever change?

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 26 2012,20:06)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 27 2012,18:39)Luke 1:2 just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eye-witnesses and servants of the Word (logos).It seems as if John was not the only disciple to call Jesus “the Word”.Mike this is a verse i have over looked yes very good thanksAll the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 26 2012,20:05)Hi T, No No. Stop yapping and find the versesIf that isn't the pot calling the kettle black, then I don't know what is.

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 26 2012,19:35)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2012,07:04)Hi MB,Do you have spiritual eyes?You will need them.There are no verse that SAY Jesus is the WORD.But Jesus Christ is that Word.Nick,It does state Jesus is called the Word.  It also states Jesus is faithful and true; should we replace those words with him as well?I…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 26 2012,19:04)Hi MB,Do you have spiritual eyes?You will need them.There are no verse that SAY Jesus is the WORD.But Jesus Christ is that Word.Can I TOUCH your Word with my very own human HANDS, Nick?The disciples touched this particular Word WITH THEIR HUMAN HANDS.

Jesus. Do you know of another “word” that human beings TOUCHED and SAW with their own eyes?

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 26 2012,18:41)Mike,It is true the body of the sun, moon, and stars are different than terrestrial bodies ……………That's really all we need to know, Kerwin. Paul used examples that people could see from the earth, such as the sun, moon, and stars, to demonstrate that all heavenly bodies are different than all earthly…[Read more]

Quote (toby @ Mar. 26 2012,18:45)And Paul stated exactly what he meant by both:Earthly: Animal, Fish, bird and ManHeavenly or Celestial: Sun, Moon and Stars.So Paul LITERALLY meant bodies in heaven, and contrasted them with bodies that are LITERALLY on earth?Doesn't that put a damper on your “heavenly just means aligned with God's Spirit” spin (or…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 25 2012,20:13)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 26 2012,13:11)Really?  He seemed to be very fond of the memory of him reclining against the bosom of Jesus.  He mentioned it twice in his gospel.Everyone wanted to touch Jesus.  If he were here right now, I would rush for an embrace, or at the very least, a touch.HA Ha ha ha ha ha…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Mar. 26 2012,00:30)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 26 2012,06:49)Hi Mb, So to you he is a lesser god and an angelAre all angels gods?Quote Hi MB,Scripture calls angels and men gods. –Nick, several pages later.I know, right?  (Except I think you have it backwards. First he gave the scriptural examples, then later asked me to show him…[Read more]

Nick,I've just read a couple pages of “scriptural basis”.  I'm not on board with Jesus being Michael as of now, but David is posting some pretty good arguments.Hey, I have an idea:  Instead of labeling it as JW crap, why not try to refute the stuff David has just posted?And Ed, David's posts answered your question already.  But I'll answer it a di…[Read more]

Kerwin,As opposed to the UNSPIRITUAL flesh body Jesus had before he died?   40 There are also heavenly bodies and there are earthly bodies;This shows a distinction between the heavenly body and the earthly one.  “Heavenly” is CONTRASTED to “earthly”.  44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.Which of these bodies do those of he…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Mar. 25 2012,23:34)If I said this about a person or persons on this forum the words below, what would you think?”get to know the best Debater, and Mike the moderator, whom he sent.”That was a bad example, David – because I AM the best debater!