mikeboll64 replied to the topic Was Jesus Created? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 7 months ago
Quote (jammin @ Mar. 28 2012,09:12)you believe that Christ is god but he is created. what kind of god is that?I believe what the scriptures teach, jammin. Angels are also called gods in the scriptures, and we know they are created, right?Jesus is a god (mighty one) who is a lesser god than his own Creator (God Most High/God of gods).Since I…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Was Jesus Created? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 7 months ago
Quote (toby @ Mar. 28 2012,15:39)Just to make it clear: the verse says 'Like a Dove'.This means that the Holy Spirit alighted 'in the way that a Dove would', that is, 'with a light flutter', 'Like a light breeze', 'Softly'.Luke 3:22 NIV © and the Holy Spirit descended on him in bodily form like a dove.
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Was Jesus Created? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 28 2012,08:10)Hi Mike,God is the maker of all things.And he indeed form us all in the womb.Jesus did enter into the world the same as us.Ed,If God created ALL THINGS, that would include Jesus, right?
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Jesus' Spiritual body is flesh and bone in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 7 months ago
Toby and Kerwin,Paul was answering the question, With what kind of bodies will the dead be raised?, right?His answer was to distinguish the flesh and blood body of the man of dust – and those of the earth, from the spiritual body of the man from heaven – and those of heaven.He went as far as to say that flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 27 2012,20:34)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 28 2012,13:26)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 27 2012,20:05)Father Yahweh's word is also Not A Person Or A Being!Okay Frank.Since you seem so certain about this, surely you will be able to tell us which “Word of life” the disciples actually handled with their own hands.John said this…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Michael, who is he? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 7 months ago
Nick,Why not answer some questions once in a while? Do you think we don't see through your quips, and how they show your insecurity?If you cannot answer, or even if you just don't want to answer because you know the answer will show your doctrine to be flawed, then just say so. Or you could even say nothing at all. But it makes you look…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 27 2012,19:29)Hi Kerwin,Excellent post! …but it will probably be ignored. As doall posts that refute those who believe things unScriptural.It might be ignored by me because I haven't a clue what point Kerwin is trying to make.Is he trying to list scriptures he thinks show that humans touched spirits with their hands?Or is…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 27 2012,20:05)Father Yahweh's word is also Not A Person Or A Being!Okay Frank.Since you seem so certain about this, surely you will be able to tell us which “Word of life” the disciples actually handled with their own hands.John said this life was “manifested”, and they had “seen” it and “touched” it with their own…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Was Jesus Created? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 27 2012,19:35)You exchange 'of' with 'by' in Rev. 3:14………….. do you see how you add to, change and twist things to fit your doctrine…Revelation 3:14 NWTAnd to the angel of the congregation in La·o·di·ce′a write: These are the things that the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Was Jesus Created? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 27 2012,19:22)Hi Mike,You take part in the creation of God;God gave power for humans to reproduceafter their kind; you can read this in Genesis.Ecclesiastes 11:5As you do not know the path of the wind, or how the body is formed in a mother’s womb, so you cannot understand the work of God, the Maker of all things.Isaiah 4…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Jesus' Spiritual body is flesh and bone in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 7 months ago
Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 26 2012,22:27)What mortal body is quickened by his Spirit?Romans 810 But if Christ is in you, your body is dead because of sin, yet your spirit is alive because of righteousness. 11 And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Jesus' Spiritual body is flesh and bone in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 7 months ago
Quote (toby @ Mar. 27 2012,04:41)The verses are clear, that Paul was contrasting the Bright shining SPLENDOUR of the body in the Celestial Heaven, with the dull 'Splendour' of the Earthly Body.I disagree. I believe Paul was contrasting the LITERAL bodies of planets and BEINGS in heaven to the LITERAL bodies of those of the earth. After all, he…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic 1 John 5.20 – Christ is not the true God? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2012,14:23)Hi Charles, The Spirit of Christ from God spoke. The Word that was with God and was God.So “God” had glory alongside “God” before the world began, Nick?

mikeboll64 replied to the topic 1 John 5.20 – Christ is not the true God? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 7 months ago
Quote (david @ Mar. 26 2012,21:32)I guess it would take a very very very good debator to prove that though.

mikeboll64 replied to the topic Was Jesus Created? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 7 months ago
Ed, I was born. Am I a creation of God? YES or NO?It doesn't really matter how you answer that, because whether you like it or not, the prayer in Acts 4 proves that if Jesus was someone other than the One who created EVERYTHING in the heavens, earth and sea, then he has no choice whatsoever but to be one of the EVERYTHING in the heavens, earth o…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago
1 John 1:1 NLT © The one who existed from the beginning is the one we have heard and seen. We saw him with our own eyes and touched him with our own hands. He is Jesus Christ, the Word of life.Now, I'm not going to pull a jammin on you here and say this translation PROVES my point. But I list it to show you exactly how I understand 1 John 1:1.I…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Has ED been an author of confusion? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 14 years, 7 months ago
I don't teach confusion, Ed. I sometimes word my sentences in a confusing way and have to re-explain later, but I wouldn't consider that human flaw to be the same as me being an author of confusion.Ed, I'm finding myself with less and less time to even discourse with you. Your latest posts to me concern mundane crap – in which I'm truly not…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2012,03:09)Hi MB,Do you think folk touched Jesus like modern idol worshipers scream and want to touch popstars?Not at all, Nick. In 1 John 1:1, John was doing a fine job of emphasizing that Jesus, the Christ, Word, and Son of God truly came into the world.It's like he was saying, Believe me guys! He was truly here! …[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Was Jesus Created? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 26 2012,21:43)Anyway, in conclusion, the literal firstborn of his kind CANNOT POSSIBLY be the first created being of his kind. A literal firstborn requires that another OF HIS KIND had to exist beforehand whom the literal firstborn is from…Kathi,I won't argue semantics with you. I see nothing wrong with calling Adam the…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Was Jesus Created? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 7 months ago
Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 27 2012,16:08)Hi Mike,I thought the reason you were asking questions about those versesin Acts 4 was to attempt to make Jesus into a co-creator of God.Nope. That's the beauty of these scriptures, Ed. Not only do they show Jesus as part of the “EVERYTHING IN HEAVEN” created by God, they also list him as someone OTHER THAN the O…[Read more]
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