Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 08 2012,13:54)Hi MB, You need a break because you have just opposed scripture. Heb 2.14-17YOU need a break if you think none of us have human fathers, Nick. And Pierre is right: You ignore the whole teaching of Heb 2, where it is speaking of the pre-existence of Jesus and how he had to partake in humanity and why.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 07 2012,16:04)Hi Charles, Jesus was not a god.Nick,What did Jehovah mean when He foretold that Jesus would be called a mighty god?

Do you see all the gods mentioned in Pierre's post, Gene? Who are all those gods?Gene, just answer this one question:How could Jehovah foretell that Jesus was to be called mighty god if there ARE no other gods except for Jehovah?

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 08 2012,10:52)If Jesus did not have the exact same nature as we do he could not have qualified to be a sacrifice to GOD for us , He had to be “EXACTLY” the SAME in EVERY WAY……………Let me stop you right there, Gene. First of all, no scripture says Jesus had to be the same as us in every way. Secondly, Jesus has…[Read more]

So if his human body is no more, and his human spirit is no more, then what part of Jesus makes him still be a “human being”, Nick?If he mediates BETWEEN men and God, then he is neither man nor God.And the fact that Jesus is the man FROM heaven doesn't say that Jesus is STILL a man IN heaven, does it? But it does go a long way in showing that…[Read more]

I don't believe Satan is Lucifer either.  Ezekiel 28 refers to the king of Tyre.  Many confuse the text of verse 14, which really says, 28:14 NETBible I placed you there with an anointed guardian cherub; you were on the holy mountain of God

Quote (kerwin @ April 07 2012,18:21)Quote (terraricca @ April 08 2012,04:14)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 08 2012,16:06)HI MB, Why do you think God said what ED quoted?Nso that people like you would know witch God to worship ,because any other god than GOD the almighty are lesser gods and can not help us but he can.Pierre,Your answer is incomplete.…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 07 2012,16:06)HI MB, Why do you think God said what ED quoted?Nick,Why do you think Jehovah said there was no savior except for Him when we know He SENT many other saviors?Nick, Jehovah is the God of gods. Who are these other gods in heaven and on earth that Jehovah is the God OF?

Quote (toby @ April 08 2012,01:29)As for the explicitly and deliberately worded question: no, Jehovah God is not the only 'god'Thank you. Your answer is scriptural.

Quote (kerwin @ April 07 2012,21:38)Mike,I did not trick you; you tricked yourself. You have now admitted that flesh can mean sinful nature when it is not driven by the Spirit.Oh, so Hebrews 5:7 is saying that Jesus made many supplications while in his “sinful nature that was not driven by Spirit”?

Quote (toby @ April 07 2012,16:42)Thank you for your first honest reply………..This is the crap I'm sick of with you.  Toby, I have shown you the descriptions of angels in heaven, yet you keep saying I haven't.  You make the claim that because an angel was able to go up to heaven in flames, it means his body was temporary.  You blow off the fa…[Read more]

Quote (toby @ April 07 2012,16:35)Hi Gene,Isn't it strange that Jesus explicitly and unambiguously says: “The Kingdom of God is within you!” in Luke 17:20-21.Yet another person in this forum says that it is not so.When someone so plainly dismisses what Christ himself says in plain words, is there any wonder that other plain and unambiguous things…[Read more]

Quote (toby @ April 07 2012,16:32) What happened to the (so called) 'Spiritual Body' you say Jesus previously had in Heaven?Toby, this seems to be the main point of your post, so I'll address it ONCE AGAIN:What happened to the Word of God who emptied himself and was made flesh?The answser to my question is also the answer to yours.  Why you would…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ April 07 2012,12:21)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 08 2012,05:06)Quote (carmel @ April 07 2012,11:10)David ,and Teraricca,How would you define the scrpture hereunder??Acts 5:3But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the HOLY GHOST, and to keep back part of the price of the land? 4Whiles it remained, was it not…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 07 2012,14:57)Wisdom is personalized as the daughter of God in order to make her easier to relate to and to make the words about her more interesting.No it's not.

Quote (Ed J @ April 07 2012,12:40)I said: THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD, misguided people think there are other gods………….Oh. Like the misguided people who wrote the God-inspired scriptures?Was Jesus “misguided”? Was Paul? Was John? Was King David? (The list goes on and on)

Quote (carmel @ April 07 2012,11:10)David ,and Teraricca,How would you define the scrpture hereunder??Acts 5:3But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the HOLY GHOST, and to keep back part of the price of the land? 4Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast…[Read more]

Quote (toby @ April 05 2012,20:30)It appears that you 'walk away' because you cannot answer ……………..Toby,Are you posting in this thread to support Ed in his claim that there is LITERALLY only one god mentioned in scripture?Or are you here merely because you saw a place where you could make yet another false accusation about me?  Please,…[Read more]

I would like to add this scripture to my opening post, as it is yet another scripture that teaches that Jesus is no longer a human being in heaven.Hebrews 5:7In the days of his flesh, Jesus offered up prayers and supplications, with loud cries and tears, to the one who was able to save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 31 2012,14:24)if in fact it was God's will for Jesus to be crucified why then does Jesus say “Father forgive them, they know not what they do” Why would there be a need to be forgiven for fulfilling God's will?Matthew 26:5454 But how then would the Scriptures be fulfilled that say it must happen in this way?” Matthew 2…[Read more]