Quote (kerwin @ April 19 2012,18:51)Mike,Where is that written?Phil 2:6 and Romans 8:3

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 19 2012,18:50)Hi MB,He said he was a man but you disagree ?I don't disagree at all. I KNOW he was a man. But he also said he came down from heaven, and would ascend to where he WAS BEFORE. Do YOU disagree?

Quote (kerwin @ April 19 2012,18:16)The NIV adds some information.NETNotes adds a lot of info on that verse:tc Most witnesses, including a few important ones (A Θ Ψ 050 Ë1,13 Ï latt syc,p,h), have at the end of this verse “the one who is in heaven” (ὁ ὢν ἐν τῷ οὐρανῷ, Jo wn en tw ouranw). A few others have variations on this phrase, such as “who…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 19 2012,17:42)Hi MB,Jesus is a man. Jn8.40 Do men come from heaven?Only the one who was existing in the form of God before being made into the likeness of a human being. Only the one through whom all things were created who later partook in sinful flesh because the children he hoped to save were of sinful flesh.THAT is…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 18 2012,20:44)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 19 2012,12:58)And what's worse, your Jesus isn't even the scriptural Jesus.  The scriptural Jesus came down from heaven – yours didn't.  The scriptural Jesus was existing in the form of God before emptying himself of all that and being made into a human being – yours wasn't.  …[Read more]

Nick?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 18 2012,20:19)Hi MB,Those that meet him in the air will not be of flesh.New bodies are arranged.Okay, so where are we at now, Nick?This is what you said that started this whole discussion:Quote Hi MB, Is the kingdom of God within you? Ihe kingdom exists wherever God and His king are given rule.Despite trying hard to…[Read more]

Frank,I wonder if it did truly say “his name is called the Son of God”, would people like Marty still try to claim that he isn't actually the Son of God, it's just that his name is CALLED that – like they do with “Word of God”?  

He foretells of after the resurrection.  Any human being on earth still must drink water each day – whether or not they believe in the Son of God.There will come a day when some of us will never hunger or thirst again. Some of us will drink from the river flowing from the thrones. (Rev 22:17)

So the “Spirit glue” is able to make other spirit beings in heaven be “angelic sons”, but not Jesus? The “angelic sons” in Job are called “morning stars”, but Jesus being called “the bright morning star” cannot possibly mean he is the brightest “angelic son”?Okay Nick. If you say so. We're off topic here.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 19 2012,16:55)Hi MB, Are the words of Jesus Christ not Spirit and life to you?What's that got to do with the verse in question?

No Nick. I still get thirsty and have to drink many times each day. How about you?

So you say, Nick. What scriptural proof do you offer?

Okay.  And if by using “The Spirit” as the glue that holds Job and Rev 2:28 together you still come up with the belief that “angelic sons” are referred to in Job, tell me once again why it is impossible for you to come to the conclusion that Jesus is the brightest “angelic son” in Rev 22:16.

Quote (jammin @ April 19 2012,06:22)For they drank from the spiritual rock that traveled with them, and that rock was Christ.Jesus may have been the angel of God who went before the Israelites in the wilderness. (Exodus 20:20-23) But that verse could just as easily be referring to Moses, another christ of God.Either way, at best it lists Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ April 19 2012,02:03)Christ made the heavens and the earth Hebrews 1:10New Living Translation (NLT)10 He also says to the Son,“In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundation of the earth    and made the heavens with your hands.sorry edj but your doctrine is not in the bible.Does God Almighty have a God of His own, jammin? Heb 1:9…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 19 2012,01:01)Hi Charles, THEREFORE betrays your dependance on human wisdom. Dig deeper.Nick is the only person I know who refuses to use his God-given human wisdom, yet still pretends to teach others.

Quote (Ed J @ April 18 2012,23:44)Hi Jammin,The term “GOD” refers to the Creator and ruler of the universe.Yes, that is ONE person the word “god” can refer to – and many times does.

Quote (jammin @ April 18 2012,21:27)mat 24.36 refers to his HUMAN NATURE AND NOT HIS “NATURE AS GOD”jammin,It seems to me that you have a decision to make.  You have to decide for yourself whether Jesus was truly God Almighty manifested in the flesh, and was therefore all-powerful and all-knowing…………..or if Jesus was a kind of “lesser…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 18 2012,20:18)Hi MB, You will need to find a way of aligning them ALL.And how do YOU align the “morning stars” in Job with Rev 2:28? Wasn't it YOU who said Job referred to “angelic sons”?