But it is IMPOSSIBLE for Jesus to be the brightest “son by the Spirit”?What scripture tells you this?

Were either of you two going to actually try to SCRIPTURALLY refute my last post? Or is “OMG” the best you guys have to offer?

So you have no quote of me to offer either, Nick?Thought so.

But you said the “morning stars” in Job were “angelic sons”, did you not?

Better to be alone and aligned with scriptures than to have millions of supporters and contradict the scriptures.Or perhaps you think sheer volume makes the Trinitarians right?Btw, I'm not “alone” in this belief.  

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 21 2012,16:49)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 21 2012,16:31)Nick,Is there a SCRIPTURAL reason that the christ to whom Paul referred CAN'T POSSIBLY be either Jesus OR Moses?Hi MB, No……………Okay then…………….. shhhhhh.

Well Nick,Here's your chance to put your money where your mouth is.  Ed started this thead quite a while ago, and even had some verbal support in the beginning.  That is until I challenged anyone to quote an actual “YES or NO” question I had ever asked that couldn't be answered with a YES or a NO.Not one quote ever emerged on this thread, and i…[Read more]

And he is the brightest “angelic son by Spirit”, right?

So then you DON'T have ONE SINGLE SCRIPTURE to offer, Nick? Not even ONE? Thought so.

Well of course he did, Nick. All things in heaven and on earth, whether visible or invisible were created through him.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 21 2012,13:48)Hi MB,You theorise” Also, you haven't commented on the fact that IF Paul DID refer to Jesus in that passage, it only shows that Jesus was the ANGEL of God who was sent ahead of the Israelites.  So even if you KNEW it referred to Jesus, it wouldn't make him God Almighty, but one of God's many angels. “You…[Read more]

Not for me it doesn't, Ed. If it does for you, then you aren't understanding it correctly.Ask me and I will help you, okay?

And Jesus is the brightest of them all, right?

Nick,Proverbs 8:22-31 NIV22 “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works,   before his deeds of old; 23 I was formed long ages ago,   at the very beginning, when the world came to be. 24 When there were no watery depths, I was given birth,   when there were no springs overflowing with water; 25 before the mountains were settled in plac…[Read more]

No Nick.I dwell on earth right now – right smack dab in the middle of Satan's Kingdom. I can poetically say that I'm already in heaven by way of being in Jesus right now, but it would not be meant to be taken LITERALLY.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 21 2012,13:58)Hi MB,Since the utter union between the Jesus and the Word Jesus Christ inherited all the history of the Word that was with God and was God.Will this admitted “concept that came to you one night” suffice for you – even against scriptural contradictions to it?I await your scripture in the “Word” thread,…[Read more]

Well Nick,Once again: Jesus IS called a god in scripture. He is not the GREAT God Jehovah, and therefore a lesser god.Also, the English word “angel” refers to spirit messengers of God, of which Jesus most definitely is.So thanks for pointing out once again that I preach what the scriptures preach.

Martian,Your last post only reinforces my first comment on this thread: You wish to place Jesus where you WANT him to be (despite what the scriptures actually teach), for your own selfish reasons. Because it makes YOU feel more empowered if Jesus was nothing but “exactly like the rest of us”, you will teach a Jesus who was “exactly like the rest…[Read more]

Quote (shem4name @ April 21 2012,13:06)So you believe Jesus is human made like his brethren in every way?I believe Jesus was made to be like his brethren in almost every way. (He of course knew no sin like the rest of his brethren.)But the teaching is that BECAUSE the children were flesh, Jesus had to PARTAKE in flesh also. The teaching has…[Read more]

Quote (shem4name @ April 21 2012,13:03)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 22 2012,04:16)Martian, Your entire posts argues against someone who claims Jesus was never a human being.  I have never claimed such a thing.What did your Jesus sacrifice, Martian?His life? No greater love hath a man then he lay down his life for his fellow man.All human beings die,…[Read more]