Quote (jammin @ May 10 2012,22:18)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 11 2012,11:30)I assume that you agree with scripture that there exists only ONE Omniscient Creator of All Things, right?  And that One is called “God Most High”, right?Do you think Jesus IS that One…………….or the Son OF that One?  It has to be one of the two, not both.  Jesus can ei…[Read more]

Actually Nick,It is required that we use our God-given reason to understand the scriptures. Nothing I have said has “overruled” any actual scripture – just your nonsensical interpretation of them.Were you going to actually address the Phil 2 points from the last page? Because I was waiting for you to address those before doing the same thing…[Read more]

Nonsense, Nick.

Quote (kerwin @ May 10 2012,20:19)26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself;Point taken, Kerwin. Good use of scripture.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 10 2012,19:26)Hi MB, The WORD was God, not a lesser god or an angelNope. The Word was WITH God, and therefore could not have possibly BEEN the very God he was WITH.Also, something that WAS God cannot become someone who ISN'T God.See Nick? If you'd only allow yourself to use your God-given reasoning abilities, you'd be…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 10 2012,19:25)Hi MB, Is this PERSON word used in scripture much or just in theology?Those who have personalities (and wills of their own) are persons. This is just common sense. I know you often try to get me and Kerwin and others here to refrain from using their God-given common sense and reasoning abilities because…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 10 2012,19:25)Hi MB,These lesser gods are angels.Was your lesser god an angel?Was – and still is an angel of his God. But why do you try to divert away from my Phil 2 points?

Nick,Who exactly are these “demons”, of whom Satan is the leader?Also, if you cannot show a witness that a demon was called by the name “Satan”, then isn't it just your opinion that demons were called by Satan's name?

That's right, Nick. He ascended to where he was before.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 09 2012,20:54)Hi MB, Do you really not know that Jesus of Nazareth was put to death?If you do not understand the Spirit of Christ do you have the Spirit?Nick,I responded to this post, but then moved my response to the “Pre-existence” thread, so as not to derail this thread anymore than we already have.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 09 2012,20:54)Hi MB, Do you really not know that Jesus of Nazareth was put to death?Of course I know that, Nick. Here's what YOU apparently don't know:Philippians 25 Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,7 but…[Read more]

Michael and Gabriel are also lesser gods – according to Biblical terminology. Are you implying that God is unable to do work through them?

Quote (carmel @ May 10 2012,10:56)Also in Jude 1:4……………….,turning the grace of our God( THE FATHER) into lasciviousness, and denying ( JESUS CHRIST)the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. THEREFORE Jesus is the only Lord God,It seems to me that Jude mentions TWO Lords in that verse, Charles. One of them is called “the only Lord God”, and t…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 10 2012,18:17)Satan was among the sons of God and it is unlikely such beings enter men.Jb1-2I'm not sure who you think the demons who DO enter men are, but I think it is clear that they are also spirit sons of God who have fallen away from God's will to follow their leader, Satan.But anyway, if you don't think it's likely…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ May 10 2012,04:30)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 10 2012,13:08)jammin, do you believe that Jesus IS the very God he is the Son OF?  Yes or No?i believe mike that jesus is the son of GOD. yes it is correct BUT you have to complete what the bible says. the bible says that Christ is the son of GOD, and he is also GOD by nature.I assume that…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 09 2012,21:01)Hi MB,Was Jesus addressing a demon of the ruler of the demons when he spoke to Peter?It seems to me that demons are mentioned many times in the NT, and each time that it is a demon, and not Satan himself, they are called “evil spirits”, “unclean spirits”, or in one case, “Legion”.If Jesus and/or his disciples…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 09 2012,20:14)Hi MB, Indeed CHRIST Jesus was. But Jesus was born in Bethlehem.No Nick,The very one who DIED is the very one who was existing in the form of God before being made into a human being.So who died, Nick? The PERSON Jesus Christ? Or “the Spirit of the Anointing”? Which one?

It says “SATAN” tempted him, Nick. And because it says that, I believe that SATAN tempted him. Do you believe otherwise? Also, answer the second part of my last post, please.

God did miracles through him.  Just as God performed mighty deeds through Deborah, who was also called a god.John 10 33 “We are not stoning you for any of these,” replied the Jews, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be a god.” 34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are gods’? 35 If he called t…[Read more]

So you believe that Jesus was tempted in the wilderness by one of Satan's minions – and not by Satan himself?Also, why then did Jesus call the demon within Peter “Satan”, if it was not in fact Satan?