Quote (jammin @ May 13 2012,09:25)micah 5 talks about his human nature. remember that christ became flesh. How can it be talking about his human nature when, from Micah's time on earth, his origins were from the distant PAST?    Jesus didn't become flesh until 2000 years AFTER Micah said his origins were from “days of antiquity”.  Your answer do…[Read more]

Hi jammin,Does it seem a necessary statement for one to say, “God exists with the nature of God” ?  Of course not, because it is a given that God Himself would have the nature of God.So when it is said that we might partake in God's nature, it is clear to all that the meaning is not that we will actually BE God Himself, right?Why then can't you…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ May 13 2012,09:48)i believe that Christ is the only begotten son of GODi also believe that he is God the only son or the only begotten GOD! (monogenes theos in greek)I believe these things as well, jammin.  The parts that I didn't strike through are scriptural, and therefore the truth.  The part I did strike through is not of any s…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ May 13 2012,09:47)Hi Mike, 1 Cor. 8:6 is the conclusion of the matter. But to us there is but one God, the Father,of whom are all things, and we in him;” (1 Corinthians 8:6)And there is but ONE Lord, Jesus Christ, THROUGH WHOM all things came. Ed:1. Is there LITERALLY only ONE lord in existence? Nope. So you are obviously…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ May 13 2012,05:42)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 13 2012,02:32)Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 10 2012,21:48)Hi MB,As you suggest Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;Nick,Look at verse 2.  Through whom did God make the worlds?Hi Mike,God's HolySpirit…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ May 13 2012,09:17)Hi Mike, how about this verse then?”For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak.” (Heb 2:5)Ed, read what I just said to Nick:But Nick, I mentioned yesterday that this is not the right thread for this subject that you and I have discussed already at length in the proper…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ May 13 2012,05:38)Does 1Cor 8:6 overrule 1Cor 8:5?   MANY scriptures?Hi Ed,1 Corinthians 8:5 For even if there are those called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many gods and many lords),Who exactly are these gods in heaven of whom Paul writes?  2 Kings 1:16“This is what the LORD says: Is it because there is…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 12 2012,22:41)Hi MB, Which ANGEL was God speaking about that was made the SON OF GOD or do you now admit you were wrong to say Jesus was an angel?Heb 1 3-4?Nick,The question is:  “To which of the angels did God say, 'You are my Son' ? “, right?  Could the answer be, “Jesus is the angel to whom God said, 'You are my Son' .…[Read more]

Okay Ed.But now that you've directly answered jammin's question with “#2”, let's see where the discussion goes from here.jammin, Ed answered #2, so now what was the point you were trying to make with that question?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 12 2012,22:19)Hi MB, If you understood the anointing you would be able to align the scriptures and not be walking in darknessand you would understand how the worlds were created through Jesus Christ, the Son of God.The scriptures align perfectly for me, Nick. In fact, I DARE you to show me one single scripture that…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ May 12 2012,18:22)Mikethe problem is that they want to see THE WORD OF GOD ” has the WORDS of God………Correct Pierre.  They try hard to use the many mentions of the word of God (literally “words of God”) as a way to confuse the fact that Jesus is the Word of God in a completely different sense – as God's main spokesman.…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 12 2012,21:30)Hi MB, I have not claimed that the Word that was with God was the son of God.God conferring His Word on Jesus made Jesus the Christ , the Son of God.Well right there is one major CONTRADICTION to scripture, Nick……….yet you KEEP ON claiming it anyway.According to scriptures, Jesus was BORN the Christ of…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ May 11 2012,21:44)Loaded questions cannot be answered 1. or 2. they must first be unloaded.There is nothing “loaded” about jammin's question, Ed. The answer is #2.

Quote (terraricca @ May 12 2012,16:07)Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 13 2012,16:02)Hi MB, Putting on a limp to show you have been personally attacked when it is your approach to grasping scripture that is shown to be faulty will not wash.yap,yap     no scriptures ?Pierre,It is truly sad that someone like Nick, who truly loves God and has a vast k…[Read more]

Good answer, Nick.    Hit me up when you're man enough to stand and SCRIPTURALLY defend the asinine things you claim, okay?And instead of you using this post of mine as an “escape route” that enables you to divert to more ad hominems – why not try to actually address the many points I've made on this page?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 10 2012,20:15)Hi MB,In a sense yes. The Word that he is one with was with God.Nick,Whoever the disciples SAW ascending into heaven is the same one who ascended to WHERE HE WAS BEFORE.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 10 2012,21:56)So all the angels are to worship the Son.This thread is about whether or not Jesus preexisted. We have discussed whether or not Jesus is an angel of his God in other threads already.Try not to divert away from the subject of the thread – and of our current discussion.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 10 2012,21:48)Hi MB,As you suggest Heb 11 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;Nick,Look at verse 2. Through whom did God make the worlds?

Quote (Ed J @ May 10 2012,21:36)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 11 2012,13:35)Actually Nick,It is required that we use our God-given reason to understand the scriptures.  Nothing I have said has “overruled” any actual scripture – just your nonsensical interpretation of them.Were you going to actually address the Phil 2 points from the last page?    …[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 10 2012,20:51)Christ Jesus, the man made the Son of God by being anointed with the Spirit and thus one with the Word…….John 1:14 says the Word BECAME flesh.  It does NOT say the Word came to dwell WITHIN someone who was already flesh – no matter how bad you WANT it to say that.Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 10 2012,20:51)…[Read more]