Quote (Ed J @ May 13 2012,11:37)Hi Mike,Let's be clear about terms: GOD is an “entity” not a “person”; person denotes Human; unless you believe GOD is human?Ed, “Person” denotes “human” to YOU. Apparently to me, jammin, and many others, “person” denotes “one with his own personality”.

Quote (jammin @ May 13 2012,11:36)the father is not begotten mike but the sonbut they have the same nature, GOD.jammin,If you wrongly consider from eternity to be a part of the nature of God, then wouldn't you also have to use that same faulty logic and consider begotten” to be part of God's nature?How can God be both begotten AND unbegotten?The…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ May 13 2012,11:39)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 14 2012,04:35)Ed,There are OLDER mss that have “theos” than the ones that have “huios”.  Isn't that “evidence”?Hi Mike,Not the Majority! Did you even read what you posted?God blessEd JThe majority of mss, especially the later ones (A C3 Θ Ψ Ë1,13 Ï lat), read ὁ μονογενὴς υἱός.Did you read th…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ May 13 2012,11:14)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 14 2012,03:50)Quote (jammin @ May 13 2012,10:34)you chose number 2 and that is enough for me edj.Really?  That's it?  Ed chose the scriptural answer to your question.  I was expecting that you were somehow going to use his answer as “proof” that Jesus is the very God he is the Son of.What a…[Read more]

“Morphe” means ” the outward appearance of a person or thing”.

Quote (jammin @ May 13 2012,11:07)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 14 2012,03:54)Quote (jammin @ May 13 2012,10:50)you are not all powerful………..Nor is Jesus:4 He will stand and shepherd his flock   in the strength of………….the LORD his God. If Jesus was all-powerful, he would not be ruling in the strength of his God, but in his OWN…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ May 13 2012,10:53)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 14 2012,03:03)Quote (Ed J @ May 13 2012,09:47)Hi Mike, 1 Cor. 8:6 is the conclusion of the matter. But to us there is but one God, the Father,of whom are all things, and we in him;” (1 Corinthians 8:6)And there is but ONE Lord, Jesus Christ, THROUGH WHOM all things came.  Ed:1.  Is there L…[Read more]

Ed,There are OLDER mss that have “theos” than the ones that have “huios”. Isn't that “evidence”?

Are you saying the literal Latin WORD for “christ” is “x”?

Quote (jammin @ May 13 2012,11:25)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 14 2012,04:12)Quote (jammin @ May 13 2012,10:26)God the only son means the only begotten God.No it doesn't.  The word “god” refers to any of various beings that are thought to be “mighty”, or “to be revered/feared”.So “the only begotten mighty one” does not mean the same as “mighty one the…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ May 13 2012,11:24)Personality is a different word.Personality: The combination of characteristics or qualities that form an individual's distinctive character.Is God an individual who has a personality of His own? If so, then He is a “person”. Same with Jesus and the other angels of God. IMO.I don't, however, believe what jammin…[Read more]

I remember when it was fashionable to call Christmas “X-mas”. But then many Christians thought it disrespectful to take the “Christ” out of “Christmas”.I'm quite sure jammin doesn't mean disrespect to his Lord, but I thought I'd add my two cents anyway.

Quote (Ed J @ May 13 2012,10:44)Hi Mike,There's no begotten god. (see my post to Jammin)God blessEd JEd, there is ample evidence that the original Greek word was “theos”.  There is also evidence that it was “huios” in 1:18.To me, it doesn't really matter since Jesus IS called a god in other scriptures anyway, and we know he was begotten.  But if y…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ May 13 2012,10:26)God the only son means the only begotten God.No it doesn't. The word “god” refers to any of various beings that are thought to be “mighty”, or “to be revered/feared”.So “the only begotten mighty one” does not mean the same as “mighty one the only son”.God was never begotten, jammin. Jesus was.

Quote (jammin @ May 13 2012,10:52)Quote (Ed J @ May 14 2012,03:40)Hi Jammin,Person denotes “Human”, who are these three humans?God blessEd J i think you must study first the different meanings of personAmen to that.

Absolutely I believe that Jesus Christ became flesh and dwelled among mankind with the glory of the only begotten Son of God that he was.Will you now address my “Micah 5:4” post?

Quote (jammin @ May 13 2012,10:46) His family tree is ancient and distinguished.Lord have mercy, jammin.Are faulty, man-made, butcherings of scripture truly what you base your scriptural understandings upon?Micah 5:2 says NOTHING about any “family tree”; and to base your understanding upon such frivolous, doctored translations is to cheat yourself…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ May 13 2012,10:50)you are not all powerful………..Nor is Jesus:Micah 5:4 He will stand and shepherd his flock   in the strength of………….the LORD his God. If Jesus was all-powerful, he would not be ruling in the strength of his God, but in his OWN strength.Nor does God Most High have a God of his own.jammin, your…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ May 13 2012,10:34)you chose number 2 and that is enough for me edj.Really? That's it? Ed chose the scriptural answer to your question. I was expecting that you were somehow going to use his answer as “proof” that Jesus is the very God he is the Son of.What a let down.

Quote (jammin @ May 13 2012,10:33)phil 2.6 talks about the attributes of GODPhilippians 2:6Amplified Bible (AMP)6 Who, although being essentially one with God ………….If any person is “one with God”, then he cannot possibly BE the God he is “one with“.John 17:11Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name—those you gave me—so that …[Read more]