Quote (jammin @ May 26 2012,20:14)your christ is a puny godAll gods can be considered “puny” when compared with the Almighty God who brought them into existence. I suppose Jesus would be no exception to this rule – although I wouldn't personally call my Lord “puny”.

Quote (jammin @ May 26 2012,20:11)what if i can read to you that the verse says SON OF MAN, will you accept that you are really a false teacher mike? yes or no?If you can read it in the GREEK MSS, then I will be surprised, but not a “false teacher”. Because like I said, it doesn't really matter. Both “Son of God” and “Son of Man” describe the…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ May 26 2012,18:46)Are you suggesting that the term “born of a woman” is NOT a secret clue pointing towards preexistence then?Ed,I will only tolerate yours games for so long.  You already know this, right?  So listen carefully:What I suggest is that there would have been no reason whatsoever for Paul to state the obvious in G…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 26 2012,19:21)Which lesser god of heaven  was made of women?There is none as it is human beings whom are made of woman.Which human being had a human mother and God as his Father?  NONE, right, because ALL human beings have a human mother AND father, right?  Hmmmm………..but wasn't Jesus an exception to the norm, Ke…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ May 26 2012,18:26)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 27 2012,11:21)I'm not seeing the words “Jesus without the anointing could have done nothing”, as you claimed.  I AM seeing the teaching that I mentioned – that without GOD Jesus can do nothing.  But I'm not seeing the teaching YOU mentioned.Hi Mike,Is there a difference between these two d…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 26 2012,18:30)Hi MB, A long complicated doctrinal self justification?More mindless fluff, Nick. SHOW ME A REASON, or pipe down, okay?

Quote (Ed J @ May 26 2012,18:19)Hi Mike,Are you suggesting that the term “born of a woman” is a secret clue pointing towards preexistence?  Since we are all “born of a woman” would that then not mean we also preexisted as well?No Ed,I'm saying that Paul had no reason to even MENTION that Jesus was “born of a woman” unless it has some meaning.…[Read more]

Mindless fluff, Nick.  Show me the ERROR of my understanding, as I just posted it to you.  Show me a valid REASON for Paul to point out that Jesus was born of a woman if there was no other option. Tell me how I didn't align my understanding with at least three other scriptures – scriptures that all support it.

John 3:27 To this John replied, “A man can receive only what is given him from heaven.John 5:30 By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me. John 8:19 Then they asked him, “Where is your father?”   “You do not know me or my Father,” Jesus replied. “If you kn…[Read more]

EXACTLY, Nick!Now, imagine that there was no other possibilty EXCEPT FOR Jesus to have ONLY ever been born of a woman.  In that scenario, there would be NO REASON WHATSOEVER for Paul to point out such a thing.Now on the other hand, if Jesus was existing in heaven in the form of God BEFORE being “born of a woman” (like scripture clearly teaches…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 26 2012,13:28)Hi MB,God made plain again that he was a man under the same difficulties we are.jb 25.4-6As opposed to WHAT, Nick? Why would God, through Paul, be making plain what wasn't in question in the first place?If there was no other option but for Jesus to have been born of a woman, then why would God, through Paul,…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 26 2012,14:55)I already addressed Barnes’ point by introducing the fact that John the Baptist belongs to the group of those that are born of women opposed to the group of those in the kingdom; even if born of women. No, it was ME who pointed out that Jesus was contrasting the human nature of John the Baptist against the s…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 26 2012,11:08)Hi MB,Jesus without the anointing could have done nothing.Show me the scripture that say that, Nick.I know of the ones that say without GOD, he could do nothing. I'm not aware of what you claim.

Gene,Ephesians 6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 26 2012,11:13)Hi GB, Who suggested that accountability did not fall on men for their actions?I was going to ask Gene the same thing, Nick. I don't recall anyone in this discussion claiming “the Devil made me do it” defense.

Nick,Why did Paul mention, out of the blue, that Jesus was “born of a woman” in Gal 4:4?

Quote (bodhitharta @ May 25 2012,09:08)The main thing that I keep trying to get across to those who speak about Jesus having a dual nature is that if it were true the scripture would not say:Acts 2:22Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ May 25 2012,17:15)Mike,You say that Jesus was not dual natured. Can you please give me your definition of 'dual natured.'Thanks!In other words, “Priest of God Almighty” is not one nature of Jesus while “God Almighty” is another.He WAS a spirit being like the other angels, then he WAS a human being.While he was a human being, he…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 26 2012,11:09)Hi MB, Dig deeper. God is all.Mindless fluff, Nick.

Quote (kerwin @ May 26 2012,10:51)I addressed some of that by pointing out that Nicodemus called Jesus “a teacher that comes from God” as opposed to the teacher……………And what I WANT you to address is what Paul was contrasting Jesus' human nature against in Gal 4:4.  Because THAT is the gist of Barnes' point, Kerwin.  His point is that…[Read more]