Proclaimer:  Like much of the bible, it could be metaphorical. So that morning and evening are the beginning and end of each day and not really about the lighting situation that you are talking about.

I understand that you’re attempting to call historical statements metaphorical with no evidence or valid reason to do so except that the scriptures…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  Yet, the sun according to this view was not created till the fourth day. Funny that.

Genesis 1:14-19…  And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven… and it was so. God made two great lights… he made the stars also.  God set them in the firmament of the heaven…  And the evening and the morning were the four…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  Why does seven days from God’s calendar before man existed have to be the exact amount of hours as 7 days from our perspective?

Because according to scripture, God created both “day” and “night” on the first “day”.

Because the first day consisted of “evening” and “morning” – just like all subsequent days have done.

And because Go…[Read more]

Gene:  Here is an example, of trivia,  prove that Genesis 1-4 weren’t already existing before there was a first day?  Fact is you can’t…

Gene, Genesis 1:1-4 tells us what came into existence on that first day.

Exodus 31:12-18… Then the LORD said to Moses, “Say to the Israelites, ‘You must observe my Sabbaths…  For six days work is to be do…[Read more]

Admin:  I think the login cookie expired at that moment. WordPress which is the CMS this website is built upon, defaults to 2 weeks for the login cookie, something I was not aware of till now.

As you know, I have added in some code to extend the cookie for one year. Hopefully it works.

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Carmel:  It does also to me every month and I have to login as it was not the first time that I posted without being logged and I simply lose my post.

Man, I can’t even imagine how loud you yelled when that happened, because your posts are like 2000 word novels!  😅

Sometimes I’d forget to copy before submitting, and I’d scream.  Other times, I’…[Read more]

Adam:  It is better to check your login before posting your messages.

At the bottom of the page where you are posting, right below the “Notify me of follow-up replies via email” checkbox is where you’ll see that you’ve been logged out.  The problem is that the site would log some of us out WHILE we were making a post – and the fact that you were l…[Read more]

Admin:  Let me know if this doesn’t work and thanks for pointing this out.

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Gene:  The question is do you actually believe scriptures and what Jesus truly said?  Mike,  that’s the big question here. Not all these useless trivial things you are talking about, that actually mean nothing to anyone.

Yes Gene, I believe the scriptures and what Jesus said.  However, I find it ironic that you are telling me that the big quest…[Read more]

Gene:  Mike…..you saying, it doesn’t mean we also are lord of the Sabbath,  only shows me your inability to put simple scriptures together .  Jesus had just said man was not created for the Sabbath, but the Sabbath was created for him,  which plainly shows that the Sabbath is gifted to us, freely from God…

Gene, I agree and completely underst…[Read more]

@admin

Every two weeks or so I submit a post to see this…

And every time I do the security check and click the “Keep Me Signed In” box.  But two weeks later, your site logs me off again.  You suggest it’s something to do with my cache, or that I’ve set something to log me off every so often.  I have never done anything to limit my ca…[Read more]

Carmel: GENESIS 1:1 THE ENTIRE COSMOS WAS CREATED IN TOTAL GOD’S HARMONY…

What do you mean by “the entire cosmos”?  Does that include the sun and the stars?  If so, then you are wrong according to scripture.  If you mean a blob of water that God later separated into the waters below the heaven and the waters above it, then yes.

Carmel:  BILLION A…

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Mike: The Bible says that God created the sun on day four.

Proclaimer:  Making a statement that is biblically wrong,  based on something you were taught at Sunday school when you were 4 years old, doesn’t make you right. Instead, it makes you look like a simpleton.

Taught in Sunday school?  Simpleton?  I tell you what the Bible actually says -…[Read more]

Gene, Jesus saying that HE is the Lord of the sabbath doesn’t mean that all men are – any more than Jesus saying HE existed in heaven with God before the world began means that all men did.

But I haven’t been talking about what day the sabbath was or if we are still obligated to follow it. I’ve just shown you and Proclaimer from scripture that…[Read more]

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The post at the top of this page, please.  Thanks.

Hey Kathi, you popped into the “Conspiracies” thread and offered some opinions.  I questioned you on them, but you disappeared.  We’re delving into whether we believe the Biblical account of creation or the Scientism account right now.  I’d really like to see your input.  Thanks.

I agree that Jesus is the “monogenes” god according to John 1:18.  I don’t mind the “only-begotten” translation, but the Greek word has the sense of “one of a kind”…

And Jesus is definitely unique as the first one created by God.  That sets him apart (and higher) than all the other gods who were created through him by the Most High G…[Read more]

Adam:  Yes brother Gene, the God mentioned in the creation stories of Genesis 1 & 2 was very much humanly that he needed to rest on a particular day.

Look into the teaching that God “rested” on the seventh day.  Look up the meaning of the Hebrew word, and study some commentaries.  Get back to us with the correction of your implication above th…[Read more]

Carmel:  AFTER GENESIS 1:2 GOD COMMENCED A NEW PHYSICAL CREATION COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM GENESIS 1:1 

That is scripturally inaccurate, for we are told that in six days, God created the heaven, the earth, the sea, and everything in them.  The six days are not separate from the creation of the heaven and the earth, but instead INCLUDE the crea…[Read more]

Berean: Gene

When we rest on the seventh day, we are supposed to understand that God created our world in 6 days and rested on the Seventh day and set apart that day and sanctified it for man

Yep.