Quote (Is 1:18 @ Nov. 17 2012,17:22)Does your salvation depend on you “knowing” a big God and also a little sidekick god? Explain this to me.I don't suppose I'd word it that way, but YES. We must know Jehovah (the “big God”) and His holy SERVANT Jesus (the “little sidekick god”) for our salvation. This is the way the “big God” decided it should…[Read more]

Charles,I await an answer to the question in my last post.

Charles,In John 20:17, who was Jesus referring to with the words “my God”?

Quote (carmel @ Nov. 17 2012,13:38)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 18 2012,05:41)I don't think God served Himself, Charles.Mike,AS MAN:HE LOWERED HIMSELF!THE FLESH SERVED THE SPIRIT.THE FLESH COUNTS FOR NOTHING EXCEPT TO SERVE.Jesus is still a servant of his God, Charles. (Acts 4:30, etc.)Also, “the flesh”, as you call it, had his own mind and will.…[Read more]

Quote (Guncher @ Nov. 16 2012,03:55)I can understand that spirits can know the past, but can they see the future?Acts 1616 Once when we were going to the place of prayer, we were met by a slave girl who had a spirit by which she predicted the future. She earned a great deal of money for her owners by fortune-telling. 17 This girl followed Paul and…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Nov. 17 2012,11:10)SO JESUS SERVED GOD, HIS OWN SUBSTANCEI don't think God served Himself, Charles. You are, of course, entitled to any belief that makes you happy.

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 16 2012,09:55)mikeUzzah,was not of the tribe of Levi and so he knew he could not touch the ark,Pierre and Gene,The point of my three examples was not to divert the subject into explanations of those three examples.They were just three things off the top of my head that I used to show Gene that it doesn't matter what WE see…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 16 2012,04:03)Mike,God did make mankind immortal in the beginning or the curse of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil would not have caused death.Show me the scripture that says God originally made mankind immortal, Kerwin.Are you suggesting that the tree of life was there as an “antidote” to eating from…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 15 2012,20:09)Mike,you said:Quote For example, you say God is the Father of Jesus, therefore it proves Jesus isn't created.  What?  He is my Father too, right?  Does that mean I'M not created?That is right, if God is the Father of Jesus and He is not adopted as a son but is the only begotten Son in the beginning, that me…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 15 2012,20:02)The God of Jesus can only be our saving God while being understood as being one with Jesus.Kathi,It is evident that you are stumped on this one. If Jesus meant “the Father” by the words “my God” in John 20:17, then “the Father” is also our God – plain and simple.If Jesus meant “the unity of Father and Son” by…[Read more]

The only scripture that possibly speaks of Jesus “creating” anything at all is John 2:15, where Jesus is said to have “made” a whip out of cords.Other than that, no scripture speaks of Jesus “creating” anything at all. What the scriptures DO teach is that God, alone and by Himself, created all things THROUGH His holy servant Jesus the Christ of God.

Hi Wakeup,Here is the link to a thread in which we can discuss the MANY gods mentioned in the Bible.The word “god”, in Biblical usage, referred to men, angels, and the Most High God, Jehovah. In Biblical times, men referred to powerful spirit beings as “gods”. This is why Manoah, knowing he had seen an ANGEL OF God, said, “We have seen a god”.If…[Read more]

Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 15 2012,21:20)Tell me what strength would a MAN have to come in?Well, to complete a task that a man couldn't do, he would have to come in the strength of someone stronger than himself.Are you now saying that Jesus WASN'T “God Almighty in the flesh”?  Are you saying he was a man who was LESS POWERFUL than the God he needed…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 15 2012,20:05)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 16 2012,12:13)So Jesus IS called a god in your AKJV?Hi Mike,”No” God blessEd JAnd once again, it is time for me to walk away from your nonsense, Ed.

Quote (carmel @ Nov. 17 2012,00:21)IF JESUS AS MAN WAS A THIRD OF HIS OWN SPIRITUAL GOD???Charles,If it makes sense to you that Jesus is a third of his own God, then go with it. It doesn't make sense to me, so I will continue to believe the words of my Lord that OUR one God is ALSO the same God Jesus has.If Jesus' God is NOT a combo of Father and…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Nov. 16 2012,00:13)are you saying that PAUL is lying when he said that Christ is God  in phil 2.6?Paul never said the Christ (anointed one) OF God was God, jammin.He said God's servant Jesus was existing in the form OF God, but didn't consider equality with God something to be grasped.How you and your bogus Trinitarian…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Nov. 16 2012,00:13)the word ONE has a meaning of united.It also has a meaning of “singular”.

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 15 2012,20:44)Mike,I don't recall MRYA being used for a disciple. Do you know where?Look on your Peshitta thread – where we were discussing the things said on that other forum.I linked the thread where one of the posters said the word was used of Thomas, or one of the Apostles.I can't verify the truth of that claim, but I…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 15 2012,20:37)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 15 2012,21:27)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 15 2012,17:32)Quote (jammin @ Nov. 14 2012,02:38)Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)“For today, The Savior has been born to you, who is THE LORD JEHOVAH The Messiah, in the city of David.”So the Lord Jehovah was BORN?  And the Lord Jehov…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 15 2012,20:34)You have not proven this inaccuracy, have you. You don't even know a lick of grammar rules in the Aramaic language so who are you to decide if it is inaccurate or not? Who are you to correct jammin regarding Aramaic translations. Do you think you are some one qualified to intelligently discuss the Aramaic…[Read more]