Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 18 2012,21:04)I have said it before, but I will say it again.  Jehovah of the old testament is Jesus of the New.  It was always the same God, period.  Jesus was GOD in Flesh, not a god in flesh as you supposeThen why do you suppose the “God in Flesh Jesus (who used to be Jehovah)” shepherds the flock in the strength of his ow…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Nov. 19 2012,14:30)Mike,Jesus was NOT talking ABOUT HIS FATHER, but about HIS GLORIFICATION WHICH WAS NOT YET OCCURRED!Charles, Where was the Father while His anointed one Jesus was on earth?

Revelation 2:7 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes, I will give the right to eat from the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God.Revelation 22 1 Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb 2 down the middle…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 18 2012,15:11)I should also look into the account where the angels materialized bodies. That seems to be something we should be discussing.Agreed. But remember that eating human food doesn't make an angel flesh and bone anymore than me eating dog food would make me a dog. After all, humans were said to have eaten “the bread…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 18 2012,15:11)It wouldn't make him a liar as you say, if pneuma can be understood to mean apparition or phantom.Even IF that were the case (notice the “big IF” ), it would mean that we are to assume the disciples just naturally understood that spirits DO have flesh and bone on occasion.Like:Oh crap, Jesus!  At first we…[Read more]

Don't you sometimes want to give Ed a tile – just to see what he will say? Or is that just me?

Gene,It is true that YHWH says there is no god beside Him.  But scripture speaks of many gods, right?  YHWH Himself even calls Satan “the god of Ekron”, right?Also, consider that YHWH also says there is no Savior beside Him.  Yet we know that Jesus is but one of the MANY saviors God sent to His people.  Did God lie about being the only Savior, Gen…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 18 2012,14:50)there is no glory to God to learn the ways of the devilI agree with that statement in premise, Pierre. But doesn't one have a better chance of defeating his enemy if he truly gets to know his enemy, and how he operates?

I guess you missed the sarcastic gist of my previous post, David.  Listen:  It really doesn't matter what you think the word “pnuema” meant in Luke 24:39, because NOT ONE of the definitions of “pneuma” describe a being that DOES have flesh and bone.Now, in your thinking, Jesus could have been a “pneuma” who “materialized” flesh and bone for this e…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Nov. 18 2012,12:00)My interpretation of the verse (which is, I think, what you were after) is in the post I linked you to.Paul,t8 said he already looked at your link.  He said that instead of him reading the entire manifesto, he would appreciate you posting the ONE OR TWO SENTENCES that show your “paraphrase”, or understanding of…[Read more]

It seems from his post that Wakeup agrees with you, David; and that he is trying to use 1 Cor 15 as support, just like you did.I will direct him to my response to journey:Page 6Post #6Last three paragraphs of the post

Quote (Guncher @ Nov. 18 2012,10:26)This is evident from the money being madeAnd the fact that the girl was no longer a money-maker for her owners after Paul expelled the spirit.Quote (Guncher @ Nov. 18 2012,10:26)But how does a demon know the future. has the future been planned already and that we are just part of a big planAnd that somehow they…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 18 2012,07:31)Now Mike when was that DAY HE WAS BEGOTTEN I believe he was begotten before the ages.  I believe Jude points to this fact in the last verse of his letter.  I also believe Psalm 2:7 is the recounting of a PAST event, and not a future prophecy.Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 18 2012,07:31)Now tell us Mike does t…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 18 2012,01:40)Mike,What you say sounds silly to my ears.  That is why I told you to center yourself.  Even then the fact that Scripture does not have to explicitly state “But if you don't ever eat from that tree, you will live forever” to mean “But if you don't ever eat from that tree, you will live forever”.  Jehovah did no…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Nov. 18 2012,08:23)Mike,You know that I answered that question!Since Jesus raised His body up only in the human state, something we also have to do on the last day, He was not yet glorified in the full power of the Father.I'm sorry Charles.  I do remember now that you answered the question.  In my zeal to point out to you that J…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Nov. 18 2012,05:16)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 18 2012,02:17)Quote (jammin @ Nov. 16 2012,00:13)the word ONE has a meaning of united.It also has a meaning of “singular”.  i do not deny that mike. but you should also know that ONE also means united.i know you will agree to thatOf course I agree with that – I believe all things that…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Nov. 18 2012,00:56)WHAT DID JESUS MEAN WITH THE WORDS:???DRB:John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw ALL THINGS to myself.I honestly don't know, Charles.I know that the word “things” are not in the Greek. The Greek says “draw all to myself”. I know that most translations add the word “men” or “people”, not…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Nov. 18 2012,00:19)SO HERE YOU HAVE A PROOF THAT JESUS WAS A GENUINE MAN AND AS MAN HE HAD TO OBEY THE FATHER OF THE FLESH FIRST!!! WHO WAS SATAN!!!WHO WAS IN HIS SOULS LIKE ALL HIS BRETHREN!!!So you think that Satan was in the soul of the one you say is “God in flesh”?You think God in flesh had to obey Satan?Charles, it's very…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 17 2012,18:48)17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.Where's the part that says, “But if you don't ever eat from that tree, you will live forever”?Kerwin, I see that you've got your understanding all worked out, and that you…[Read more]