Quote (2besee @ Nov. 27 2012,03:02)So then they were calling an Angel 'a god'?As is in the story of Ishmael, and Hagar………….. Hagar saw the Angel of the Lord and she also called the Angel of the Lord 'God'.This is okay, it is God's representative.Jesus is also God's representative, perhaps that Angel which Hagar saw was the pre-existant…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Nov. 27 2012,02:38)YES, I accept this fact but,It is the spirit which teaches us truth – not a theologian!Would you put all of your trust in a theologian, or in God?Where did you learn your doctrine? From Greek Scholars?Hi 2B,I learned my doctrine from scripture and from answered prayers for spiritual guidance.I am happy to hear…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Nov. 26 2012,19:22)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 27 2012,11:23)My Christ is the Son of God Almighty, just as it was revealed by the Father to Peter.yes it is true. but you are not saying the whole truthWhat other “truth” is there? Jesus either IS our ONE God Almighty, or he is the Son of our ONE God Almighty. He can't be both. So…[Read more]

Well, is Jesus the Most High God? Or the Son of the Most High God? Which one does scripture say? (Mark 5:7; Luke 1:32, 35; 8:28)

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 26 2012,19:44)The biggest concern I have with this view is that the gifts are from the Holy Spirit.I agree. To say that nothing supernatural happens in this day and age is to say that the Holy Spirit no longer works among God's children.

Marlin,I ORIGINALLY expected better from you. I ORIGINALLY had high hopes and great expectations. But, as the discussion progressed, I eventually knew it would end just as it has – with you not being able to address any of my scriptural points, and resorting instead to what amounts to name-calling.I have told you repeatedly that I don't worship…[Read more]

Kathi?

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 25 2012,12:29) Quote (mikeboll @ 64)1.  Judges 5:8 NASB ©”New gods were chosen; Then war was in the gates. Not a shield or a spear was seen Among forty thousand in Israel.The new gods were Deborah and Barak.The new 'gods' were not Deborah and Barak. Try again.As curious as I am to know who YOU think those new gods were, I w…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 25 2012,12:06)I answered you with 1 Cor 8:6 which prohibits Deuteronomy 10:17 from calling the Father ALONE 'the God of gods and Lord of lords.”Um……… no………….. it actually DOESN'T prohibit anything of the sort. Here, I'll prove it to you:Kathi, is the Father a God of other gods? YES or NO?Is the Father a Lord…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 25 2012,11:57)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 16 2012,22:21)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 15 2012,19:42)Where doe it say that some of us will also be one 'with' them?John 17:21that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.It seems to…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 25 2012,11:49)Are you going to act like you don't know that the Son sits on the same throne with His Father and that all glory, honor, dominion and praise is directed towards both the Father and the Son?Are YOU going to act like the Son was on that throne in Rev 5:13?     Kathi, the Father GRANTS for His servant Jesus to s…[Read more]

Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 25 2012,22:11)Brother, you surprise me,  you seem to think that Jesus the flesh man had a name before He was born.God in His Son-ship role as the Son of God was Jesus and HE became FLESH.It seems to be a popular assumption that Jesus wasn't named Jesus until he was born of Mary.  There are, however, no scriptures to support s…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 25 2012,22:31)Ed, do you really believe you are a character written in the bible?I have no authority to speak about whether or not Ed was foretold in scripture. I will, however, vouch for the fact that he is a character.

Quote (david @ Nov. 25 2012,22:36)With this binitarianismitis, that you have contracted, I would just take some aspirin. I don't know why Kathi doesn't like the term “Binatarian”. She keeps pushing me to watch a series of videos called “Binarianism in the OT”.

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 26 2012,18:22)9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears.Thanks t8,When did “completeness/perfection” come?

Quote (jammin @ Nov. 24 2012,20:05)mike you preach not the christ of the bibleMy Christ is the Son of God Almighty, just as it was revealed by the Father to Peter.

Quote (2besee @ Nov. 25 2012,15:43)Hi Mike, I am going to “attack” your post on page three bit by bit, tomorrow (when I have some more time) but for now I just have one more post to do:Okay 2B.  But know before you attack, that the vast majority of the post is simply Greek to English grammatical FACTS.  There is really nothing to be questioned u…[Read more]

Quote (Colter @ Nov. 25 2012,17:41)The phrase “in the beginning” is a poetic, philosophical concession.Howdy Colter,I agree with the above statement. I also realize that there are many “beginnings” mentioned in the Bible.

Quote (Richtuner @ Nov. 25 2012,17:20)mikeboll64, Quote In which of the above translations do you suppose God was “controlling His own words”?PEOPLE PLEASE DON'T GET CAUGHT UP WITH THAT FACT THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND GOD AND WHO HE IS WITH YOUR MIND.WE WILL NEVER WRAP OUR MINDS AROUND GOD WITHOUT GOD REVILING THINGS TO US BY HIS SPIRIT.Hi Rich,I'm…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Nov. 25 2012,14:48)So you are a polytheist?It depends on which definition you use. Some define a polytheist as one who BELIEVES IN more than one god. If we were to use that definition, then yes, me, Moses, Abraham, David, Samuel, etc, etc, etc are all polytheists.The more accurate definition, IMO, is “one who WORSHIPS more than…[Read more]