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    Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 24 2012,07:17)In John 1 the writer explicitly states the Word is God and then later stated the Word became flesh. This sets up an likeness between the Word that is God and the Word that is made flesh.A “likeness between” two things, Kerwin? ???Actually, your understanding says God Almighty Himself became flesh.Did that ever happen?

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    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 24 2012,19:45)Hi Besee.I noticed that you are getting more and more twisted in your understanding.Yep. He is adding words to scripture, changing meanings, and adding a second rider to the white horse……………. all for one very selfish reason: He WANTS John 1:14 to say, The Word came to be in flesh – instead of what it…[Read more]

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    Quote (2besee @ Dec. 24 2012,15:20)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 25 2012,05:28)“The first man Adam became came to be IN a living being”; the last Adam became came to be IN a life-giving spirit. ?Would it be wise of us to just ADD the word “IN” to this verse, without a care in the world about how it CHANGES the entire teaching?  YES or NO?Is my poin…[Read more]

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    Quote (2besee @ Dec. 24 2012,15:02)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 25 2012,05:22)John 14:26 NIVBut the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.Does it really say, But God, whom the Father will send in my name………… ?Did the Father SEND “God” to…[Read more]

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    Quote (2besee @ Dec. 24 2012,15:02)Hi Mike.Kerwin answered this well.The Word and the Spirit is OF God but is not God in the entirety…………I have many times in the past broken Mike to other people.2B, do you or Kerwin have any idea what I'm talking about?

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic Born of water. in the forum Prophecy 13 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 24 2012,12:32)your answer to #1 means that nothing as to be done and that it is God that judges us to be approved or not no matter what we do rightI suppose if you read my answer to #3, you wouldn't be asking me this question.  

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 24 2012,12:22)Mike………Can't you see the translators changed the wording 2besee has clearly shown you that . Why try dodge his explanation ? Are you afraid it throughs your points you trying desperately to make off?Now deal with his points instead of just dancing around them OK?Gene,Let me try my best to explain…[Read more]

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    Enough playing games.John 11  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God………We have all already agreed that the word of God was with God in the beginning.2 He was with God in the beginning.Gene and 2B have already agreed that verse 2 is STILL talking about the same “word of God” that was mentioned in verse 1.3 Through him all…[Read more]

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    Quote (2besee @ Dec. 24 2012,02:44)This (Houtos) was in the beginning with God. All things through the same (Autos) came into being not even one which came into being.http://biblos.com/john/1-2.htmhttp://biblos.com/john/1-3.htmWhat you fail to mention in your information is that Biblos.com DOES translate 1:2 as “HE was in the beginning”, and 1:3…[Read more]

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    Well then it seems that you and I agree, Kerwin.  It sure didn't sound like that when you first started talking about Asperger's Syndrome.  (That's why David used your post about it to t8 – because it seemed like you and David were in agreement that many things SAID TO BE caused by demons are really just natural afflictions.)That is how I u…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 10 months ago

    The verse is about the vassals of Israel bowing before and pleading to Israel, their master, because God is truly WITH them.Israel is not actually called “god” in that verse, though.Here is the NIV translation:This is what the LORD says: “The products of Egypt and the merchandise of Cush, and those tall Sabeans—they will come over to you and w…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic Born of water. in the forum Prophecy 13 years, 10 months ago

    1. By being raised at that last day AND being judged favorably, thereby being able to enter the Kingdom of God.2. What does that have to do with this subject? If YOU think it pertains to this subject, then just say what is on your mind.3. Believe in the name of the one God sent, and follow his teachings. (Again, what does that have to do with…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 24 2012,01:48)What is there is that Lord(kyrios) in John 20:28 is not the same word as Lord(kyrion), which is used in John 20:25 to refer to Jesus. that Thomas had previously declared he would not believe Jesus was alive without certain evidence. that Jesus presented that evidence and…[Read more]

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    Quote (carmel @ Dec. 23 2012,14:20)What did Paul reveal when he said:THE HEAD OF WOMAN IS MANHe simply pointed out what was already obvious to all: In the hierarchy of God's order, man is above woman. Man was created first, and woman was created as a helper/possession of man.

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    Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 24 2012,10:09)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 24 2012,21:41)As of right now, I am not making ANY claims as to WHO or WHAT this particular “Word of God” is……… and NEITHER should you guys be making any claims or explanations.  Right now, for the purpose of this exercise (which is to see exactly WHERE we start disagreeing), we…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 24 2012,10:33)Mike……….Your answer is explained by 2besee above………Oh great Gene! So YOU were able to find his YES or NO answer in all that stuff he posted? I wasn't able to, so thanks!Could you now let ME know whether he DOES or DOESN'T agree that verses 3 and 4 are still talking about the same “Word” John…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic Born of water. in the forum Prophecy 13 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 24 2012,00:48)what I try to show you is that is to be born again is not being resurrected from the dead to life ,the resurrection to everlasting life in heaven or on earth is the promise of the faith,being born again is the means to collect everlasting life ,I disagree with you and Marty on this subject. You take Jesus'…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic Born of water. in the forum Prophecy 13 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 23 2012,13:56)A spirit body is the reward of the saints only,so the bad in the 2nd resurrection will not be given a spirit body,but flesh.Perhaps, but there is no scriptural support for this claim.

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic Born of water. in the forum Prophecy 13 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 23 2012,13:56)This is not the resurection;but the bringing back to life.Like I've just posted from Dictionary.com, “resurrect” actually MEANS “bring back to life”.I do realize the difference between Jesus resurrecting Lazarus, and the “MAIN” resurrection of all dead which will someday come to happen.But the words mean the same…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic To EDJ. in the forum Prophecy 13 years, 10 months ago

    Not so much, 2B.  In the over three years I've been here, there has ONLY been Ed who doesn't understand the OBVIOUS fact that the Word of God in Rev 19:13 is Jesus.  No matter what else we all agree or disagree on in this site, it seems that ALL of us know that Jesus is the Word in 19:13, except for Ed, and now you.Also, this is from the “…[Read more]

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