Quote (jammin @ Dec. 30 2012,20:05)why dont you read the whole book of john .just a suggestionOkay. I'm still in Numbers right now. I'm reading a chapter a day in the NET Bible online. It has a LOT of footnotes, which I also read, so I only read one chapter per day.It will be a while before I get to John.

I disagree, Ed. I believe the Kingdom of God is a REAL place that some of us will physically go – not just something in our minds.And we can't GO there unless we are rid of flesh, and made of spirit.I see no need to keep arguing about this topic, so I'll leave it to the rest of you. As with many scriptural topics, there are different ways to…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 31 2012,08:10)Mike…….Lets get to the finish line here what are you driving at ?peace and love to you and yours Mike……………………………………………..geneIt's like a story, Gene. You can't just go telling everyone the ending before they've read it, right? Anyway, moving on…………….John…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 30 2012,14:45)I am making a distinction as in the beginning God was living by his Conversation and he was with his Conversation.I guess I knew the “Sensible Kerwin” wouldn't last forever.    The “Conversation of God” was WITH God in the beginning, and the “Conversation of God” WAS God in the beginning?   Anyway, I'm not ab…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2012,16:46)i Mike,Are you suggesting that Jesus and Paul are teaching different doctrine?Not at all, Ed.Jesus was making a LITERAL teaching, while Paul and Peter were speaking METAPHORICALLY.The teachings do not contradict each other.Btw, I didn't care for your answer to my question. I want to know, YES OR NO, if you can,…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 29 2012,22:13)Verse 4 teaches us that the “rank” of the Word is greater than the “rank” of the Light. From this I conclude the Light is a part(aspect) of the Word.Kerwin,I don't want to break stride here, but I must point out that I find it odd that you make a distinction between the Word and the light, because of the words…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Dec. 29 2012,22:01)Amen to your method Mike (though it is a really slow process!!)Okay — in agreement again, so far.Okay then, moving on…………… (we're almost there guys)John 1:11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him.Still talking about the Word from verse 1?

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 30 2012,05:41)Carmel,You are accidentally shouting.

Quote (jammin @ Dec. 29 2012,22:29)That is A gift from God but you are not accepting those facts.So the “whole truth” is that God Himself gave Himself as a gift to mankind?Hmmmm…………….1 John 4:9In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.It…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Dec. 29 2012,22:26)my words could be understood as OH MY GOD then i will not say MY GOD. are you out of your mind mike? LOLmy faher and my God is not the same as OH MY GOD.“My God, jammin, what is the matter with your head?”Now, was I just calling YOU “my God” in that sentence?If not, then your point is inaccurate.

Quote (carmel @ Dec. 29 2012,13:56)I ASKED YOU ALSO:WHAT KIND OF DEATH ADAM DIED IN?There is no scriptural indication that Adam, at the age of 930 years, died a different kind of death than all the humans who came after him died.

Quote (2besee @ Dec. 29 2012,17:46)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 30 2012,05:37)So who sacrificed their FLESH?  God's Son, the Holy Spirit?  Mike, only one had flesh and that was the Man Jesus  – the begotten Son of God – the anointed – the Christ. Holy Spirit is Spirit, just as God is also Spirit. Spirit gives birth to Spirit.'How much more will the bl…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Dec. 29 2012,21:49)The begotten Son of God (Jesus) — Yes — Is different.But the eternal Son of God (The Spirit) — No. God and the Spirit are one and the same God.So then God has TWO Sons – one of whom actually IS the God he is the Son of?Hmmmm…………………Pierre has answered correctly when he said, “the holy spirit can…[Read more]

My point is that the phrase “the word of God” often refers to different things. Sometimes, it refers to a messenger God sent. Sometimes, just to words that God has communicated to us through His messengers. Sometimes, it refers to the very purpose, or will, of God.In the case of Acts 12:24, it merely refers to the words God has communicated to…[Read more]

John 3:5 says “IN, IN, IN”.  But are you saying that you can, right now, SEE the Kingdom of God?What does it look like?  Is Jesus still looking like a slaughtered lamb?  Does he hang around with any particular angels?  What to they do all day? Is John there yet? How about Peter and Paul?

Good to know, Wakeup.  But I still want to take this one verse at a time – so I can try to figure out where common sense gives way to personal doctrines.It is noted that you are in agreement up to verse 10.

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2012,19:03)God hates the wickedness of the wicked ,this is not the same thing ,how could God loving kindness Hate someone, that ,he has send his son to save ?Well put.We should hate the sin, but not the sinner.

Pierre,To expand on my last post………………You may right now be “born again”, in the metaphorical way Peter meant.You may have died to Christ, in the metaphorical way that Paul meant.You may have been raised with Christ, in the metaphorical way that Paul meant.You may take up your cross daily, in a metaphorical sense.But you have not…[Read more]

Yep. Now answer my question. Is the child born with SEVERE birth defects a creation of God? YES or NO?

Pierre,My point was this:If YOU have truly become born again, in the way Jesus meant it in John 3, then YOU, right now, have the ability to enter the Kingdom of God.Do you believe that today you can go hang out with the angels in the Kingdom of God?If not, then you have not been born again in the way that Jesus meant.